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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#1 - 2015-07-13 17:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Utremi Fasolasi
Buff the speed of mining drones, buff the capacity, have 3 different sizes.

Drone specialists need industrial love.

They need serious help to be worth using. Not as effective as strip miners but comparable to Mining Lasers without crystals would be a start.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2015-07-13 17:08:58 UTC
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Make them at least as effective as normal mining lasers.


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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#3 - 2015-07-13 17:18:17 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Buff the speed of mining drones, buff the capacity, have 3 different sizes.

Drone specialists need industrial love.

They need serious help to be worth using. Not as effective as strip miners but comparable to Mining Lasers without crystals would be a start.


Why?
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#4 - 2015-07-13 17:21:47 UTC
Why not?
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#5 - 2015-07-13 17:24:22 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Why not?


It's your idea, brother. That means it is on you to convince your audience.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#6 - 2015-07-13 17:28:16 UTC
As long as Sempai Fozzie and Sempai Rise notice that is all that matters. Big smile
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#7 - 2015-07-13 17:29:49 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Why not?


Using that logic, let me propose another idea:

Let's allow Sabres to launch eight bubbles at once automatically in a spread formation.

After all 'why not'?


It's on you to justify your ideas.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#8 - 2015-07-13 20:29:41 UTC
best guess, to make BS mining in a domi worth doing?
as it stands, gallente have a VERY marginal advantage at drone mining atm, by virtue of some of their frigates having a 15m3 + drone bay, allowing them to launch a few mining drones.

ORE ships (as is right and proper) have a big bonus to mining, by virtue of bonus to mining laser cycle time/output, and the barges can fit strips.

If you want to mine, get a mining ship,
if you want to interdict, get a 'dictor/hic,
if you want to run lvl 4's, get a BS or a T3c
if you want to ogb a 'solo' PVP'er, get a Command ship or T3c
if you want to warp cloaked, get a cov-ops or a force recon, oh, or a prospect, astero or stratios

need I go on?

wait - is this so you can sit at a belt in your carrier, mining for your alliance, whilst making loads of money off belt rats, and still be pretty damn survivable if you get jumped?

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Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#9 - 2015-07-13 21:59:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Buff the speed of mining drones, buff the capacity, have 3 different sizes.

Drone specialists need industrial love.

They need serious help to be worth using. Not as effective as strip miners but comparable to Mining Lasers without crystals would be a start.

First, i mine every hour i play.

1. train all skills relevant to mining drones.
2. rig for mining drones.
3. buy faction mining drones.
4. sit near your mining drones while mining.
5. profit reasonably from your effort and RISK.

p.s. i mine without mining rigs or faction drones and still use mining drones cuz, ISK.

If CCP increases the mining yield of drones until most / all miners use them then those if us that take the time to use them now will lose our benefit and why should we suffer because you are lazy.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2015-07-13 23:48:12 UTC
Rather than buff the base drones, have you considered ORE vessels getting a bonus to them. for instance.... the Orca.
Sorra Hibra
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-07-14 03:18:11 UTC
There are drone buffs that I would like to see, but never will.

Assignable Mining Drones - Be able to assign drones to other pilots, so the Orca pilot can feel a bit more important in a belt Big smile, but this might help someone mine AFK.

Auto Retargetting Mining Drones - Similar mechanic to salvage drones, with the intent to be less micromanagement. But since these promote the insanely lucrative AFK drone mining, it will never happen.

And of course, Mining Drone Spec ORE ship - Ship that gets only mining drone bonus, no turrets, and mines along the lines of boosted barges. But why add a variety of ships for the lowly miner, we already have barges that get that yield anyway.
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-07-14 06:13:40 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Why not?


Let's allow Sabres to launch eight bubbles at once automatically in a spread formation..


can we make this a thing?

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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#13 - 2015-07-14 12:02:23 UTC
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Buff the speed of mining drones, buff the capacity, have 3 different sizes.

Drone specialists need industrial love.

They need serious help to be worth using. Not as effective as strip miners but comparable to Mining Lasers without crystals would be a start.

First, i mine every hour i play.

1. train all skills relevant to mining drones.
2. rig for mining drones.
3. buy faction mining drones.
4. sit near your mining drones while mining.
5. profit reasonably from your effort and RISK.

p.s. i mine without mining rigs or faction drones and still use mining drones cuz, ISK.

If CCP increases the mining yield of drones until most / all miners use them then those if us that take the time to use them now will lose our benefit and why should we suffer because you are lazy.



1. Wanting a neglected feature of the game that is kind of cool to have attention from CCP does not make any one lazy, that is an absurd assumption.

2. Most balance changes benefit newer players - the argument "I trained X skill to V, why should younger players get the same benefit at IV" is a spurious objection.

Which brings to mind one easy buff, having Mining Drone II only need IV not V to use. (I have it trained to V on my main and multiple alts btw. But the barrier to entry is too high IMO.)
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#14 - 2015-07-14 12:06:18 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
best guess, to make BS mining in a domi worth doing?

[snip]

wait - is this so you can sit at a belt in your carrier, mining for your alliance, whilst making loads of money off belt rats, and still be pretty damn survivable if you get jumped?


Way off. Neither of these crossed my mind, and not a cap pilot.

Just happened to notice while using them recently on an alt that they are still in a pretty terrible place. Their current benefit is pretty marginal.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#15 - 2015-07-14 13:05:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Buff existing mining drones? No

Add medium and/or heavy mining drones? Maybe. I wouldn't just make them scaled up mining drones, I'd make them have a purpose. Maybe have a medium mining drone with a larger ore hold that's better suited to mining high-volume, top-end ores and a heavy mining drone that can mine mercoxit (and has reduction to cloud formation rates and/or damage). The overall yields should not be significantly, if any, higher than existing mining drones; their benefit would be better efficiency with higher-end ores, not increased yield.

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-07-14 13:15:08 UTC
To be fair he said mining laser, not STRIP miner.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#17 - 2015-07-14 16:39:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Buff the speed of mining drones, buff the capacity, have 3 different sizes.

Drone specialists need industrial love.

They need serious help to be worth using. Not as effective as strip miners but comparable to Mining Lasers without crystals would be a start.

First, i mine every hour i play.

1. train all skills relevant to mining drones.
2. rig for mining drones.
3. buy faction mining drones.
4. sit near your mining drones while mining.
5. profit reasonably from your effort and RISK.

p.s. i mine without mining rigs or faction drones and still use mining drones cuz, ISK.

If CCP increases the mining yield of drones until most / all miners use them then those if us that take the time to use them now will lose our benefit and why should we suffer because you are lazy.



1. Wanting a neglected feature of the game that is kind of cool to have attention from CCP does not make any one lazy, that is an absurd assumption.

2. Most balance changes benefit newer players - the argument "I trained X skill to V, why should younger players get the same benefit at IV" is a spurious objection.

Which brings to mind one easy buff, having Mining Drone II only need IV not V to use. (I have it trained to V on my main and multiple alts btw. But the barrier to entry is too high IMO.)


1. feature not neglected. right now there is a decision to be made, is it worth it for me to put in extra effort for some more ISK per hour or do i prefer playing lazy and let that potential profit slip through my fingers. as soon as everyone does it it is no longer a choice which is bad for the game.

2. Expecting more benefit from higher training in a certain skill is NOT spuruious it is the very core of EVEs game design so exactly what game are you playing that has such different game mechanics than the game the rest of us are playing.

3. almost every game upgrade from T1 to T2 occurs at training IV so again what game are you playing that has such RADICALLY different rules from the one the rest of us are playing?

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-07-14 19:22:05 UTC
Adding larger sized mining drones could be a thing. Current drones are not really in need of buffing. Maybe slight buff to flight speed.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#19 - 2015-07-15 11:14:18 UTC
More effective mining tool = more effective bots / AFK miners. So I say no. We need to make mining more interactive. Effectivity through interactivity. Not through plain stupid "more m3 per hour with zero efford"

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Count Szadek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-07-15 12:47:10 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Rather than buff the base drones, have you considered ORE vessels getting a bonus to them. for instance.... the Orca.


yes, i want more Orcas to shoot at. Do this now
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