EVE General Discussion

I think Tech 3 could be about utility rather than adding power creep.

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I just don't like how common they've become. The diversity of ships seen on grid, especially in small-scale PvP has dwindled as a result of the introduction of T3 destroyers.

Because after insurance the hulls cost under 12mill. Take less time and SP to get into one and train than T2 frigs and dictors. Are amazingly awesome unless like double weebed and neuted but most things are. They are basically broken the frig meta. Why fly a 20mill AssFrig when you can just PWNface in a T3D? Why fly most things when a T3D is so awesome? There is little reason to fly much else plus somehow they can enter fw small plexes. They can fit crazy tanks to bait at hubs. They can go stupid fast to kite in null. They can instawarp with mode switch trick. Soooo many fitting options. Small sigs. Can fit oversized prop mods easy.

Etc etc

Did i say they cost less than 12mill after insurance?

Be in prop mode jump gate. Warp to and click defensive mode. It nerfs your max speed from the 66% bonus in prop mode. Insta warp

They can also be fit to instalock. Lol i must be forgeting so many things they can do cuz they can do them all amazingly.

Remember when T3s were supposed to be jack of all trades expert at none. Yeah T3s and T3Ds are able to be better than specilized ships at basically everything still

Last time I checked when you switch modes you don't break gate cloak. Unlike, you know, the game.

...can I have a coupon of Lloyd's Pitchfork Depot?

My point was that you don't have to go into prop mode before jumping the gate if you don't want to, because, like I said, you are free to switch modes without losing gate cloak. At least this is how it worked last time I checked. Guess we have different data on that? How comes?

People say they cost 10m after insurance, and yet the smallest typical loss of a T3D on killboards is for 60m and there are many with 200m fits or more. Of course an expensive fit on one of these is going to be tough to take on you're not fit to go against one.

Insurance never covers modules and how people choose to fit drives up the value of the kill mails.

So when it's mentioned that the ships cost 10 million after insurance, that refers to the hull which is what insurance covers.

It's not currently consistent, but close to 10-12 million after insurance.

Platinum insurance costs 9 milling ISK and returns 30 million on ship loss.

A Svipul is currently 33 million, so a net 21 million back after payout reduces the cost to 12 million.

Confessor is the same price as the Svipul, Jackdaw is slightly higher and the Hecate is currently the most expensive. Both the Jackdaw and Hecate should eventually settle around the same price as the two more established hulls.

Currently training Min Tac Des 5. Dude they already did a papercut nerf to svipuls mass/agility thing.

Look at how they nerf now. It takes more than half a year and like 4-5 releases and the thing is still not nerfed enough.
They nerf scortch 2% or nerf ishtar speed 2% lol

Takes like 7months of 6week releases when they do it every other time to get anywhwre near nerfed.


And when they finally do significantly nerf it, itll be over a year of OPness



The beauty of the awesome 6week release cycyle..... LMAO