Science & Industry

Okay so it takes 1.5mil m3 just to get level 1 index in SOV... that is equal to me mining with partial Gnosis boosts for 11 hours straight in a Skiff... That is beyond absurd.

Especially considering that mining is the least attractive activity in the game to take part in. This means miners are the most scant players in Eve especially in Nullsec. Why would the Industry Index be the hardest index to level in the game? This makes absolutely no sense mechanics and balance wise... Ratters are a dime a dozen and the military index is relatively easy to level. I was able to level the military index to level one solo in about 4 hours of play time... why then would it take me 11 hours to do the same thing to the Industry Index?

Please rescale the Industry Indexes. That is way too much mining for just level 1 and then it increases exponentially for each level after that. Logic should dictate that since there are less miners in the game the Industry Index should take the least amount of effort to level. With Fozzie SOV changes inc and the uber importance of indexes this really needs to be looked at.

The indexes are meant to measure activity.

If only one dude is mining a system, then there isn't much activity, so the index should be very low.

If many dudes are mining a system, then there is more activity and the index should be higher.

With your numbers, if you bring eleven dudes in your mining fleet you'll hit LVL1 in a single hour.

So, working as intended. Sov is not for solo.

Not to mention the Military Index is quite simple to SOLO to level 1 in less than a day aka 11 hours... completely backwards... you sidestepped my entire post/comment... Smart guy.

I'm mining cause tomorrows release and the rediculous weight being placed on indexes. I don't mine cause it is as I stated THE WORST ISK PER HOUR AND MOST BORING THING IN THE GAME, just like everyone else.

I got the Military in the exact same system from 3 to 5 in less than one day ratting with two toons... Spent an ENTIRE DAY MINING didn't even get level 1.... absurd period.

And while mining can suck as an individual (though with ore changes mining the high ends with max boosts has become profitable again), it can be expanded pretty easily. Not many other things can you reliably have 6 toons all actively making isk. Now it's not as easy as it used to be, but in null especially were the rocks are huge, it is still doable.

You seem to assume no one likes to mine, so again I'll ask you, if no one is mining, then were did the minerals come from for your ship.

I don't enjoy mining, but when my corpmates tell me they're throwing on an Index Boosting Mining Op, I'll dig out a Procurer and join them in the belts. A fleet of 20+ Barges and Exhumers with full Rorqual boosts can raise those indices in quite a reasonable fashion.

Wth is partial gnosis boosts?

under three hours in a barge in over six months isn't exactly an 'onerous' obligation for something that is 90% AFK while I go pewpew elsewhere.

It is amusing, and will continue to be amusing when some of those corps clash against the different conditions of nullsec and realise that "contributing" with **** your buddy tactics is viewed in a different light in alliance space than in hisec.

That's always been the historic problem with many of these so called indy corps. They act like their resource harvesting and profiteering is doing everyone a favour, and that any hints that they need to contribute to the health and safety of the alliance are tyrranny. They're the first to wail to the alliance to come and rep up their poorly set up moon POS, but the last to understand why they shouldn't always charge "what the market will bear" for the goods they produce.