EVE General Discussion

What he thinks doesn't dictate reality.

What you think does not change how his reality is. If he mines and build for his personal enjoyment and decide to sell under market cost, there is fuckall you can say to change it because at the end of the day, his activity is still ISK positive for him. People talk about opportunity cost but always fail to realise there is a **** ton of people more than happy to sell at a reduced profit just to not have to deal with the ball-ache of playing the market. This kind of stuff is not for everyone and selling generating ISK at a not perfect rate still keep me in ships so why the hell would I care if someone might flip my products? Once it leave my possession, IDGAF what happen with the items because I burned the ISK on some stupid **** already anyway.

But but, your opportunity cost Frostys!! Did you think of all the dank ISK you could of gotten if you optimised X, Y and Z in your process?

What about the opportunity cost in FUN of learning and applying all this stuff to the process? Can't I play a game just to enjoy myself and not care about maximising everything?

Ore like most basic materials is "free" if you want to consider it free. The marketeer can ***** and moan about dunking the market all they want, people selling under price won't care.

He does care though. You are so fixated on the money part, you are forgetting that there's much more to it.

Where would you draw the line though? We could see "time" as a cost, and it will vary for both of us how much that time is worth, for you it may be much for me it may be little, so then we're just nitpicking a word here.

As for example if I asked you if you wanted item X and you say yes - then even that isn't free, because you've had spent a few seconds pondering if you wanted item X, and perhaps a few seconds more accepting a contract of the item, and perhaps a few minutes more picking up that item because it was a few jumps away.

But I'm pretty sure that when your corp mate asks how much you paid for it, you will still say it was free and not saying "oh well I had to spend a few seconds thinking about it and then some to accept the contract and of course let's not forget those minutes it took me to pick it up" - you'd say you got it for free - even if it costed you time. Time that in your eyes wasn't really a cost...

Hence the ore I mine is free*.

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*Free comes with a cost of time, a variable that is highly individual and carry no set number or value

you see this int he T3 market. a lot of subsystems are sold at a 'loss' because the stuff i salvaged or mined is free. Many electronics subsystems are sold for less then it cost to buy the two nanoribbons to make, because again, the nano ribbons i got form sleepers are 'free' so i can undercut the guy who bought the nano's

Well you could have done both at the same time.

That's rather unfitting, considering how the USA and freedom do not go together in any way or form.

''What i mine is free'' ...

I disagree with you chribba because we all MUST pay for our ability to spend time ingame because this is a subbased game, be it with plex or rl cash , as such time in eve is never free .

Unless someone actually pays for your sub , then your reasoning would make sense.

Phew, this time I can actually get away with it, because CCP's FanSite program pay for my account

But yeah, even paying by PLEX comes with a cost, be it grinding, scamming, mining, producing... insert anytihng here that generates ISK. And in the end yes that time is "cost" (valued at my *variable)

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