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Body Mods

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#101 - 2015-06-30 22:09:03 UTC
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Ameriya
Doomheim
#102 - 2015-06-30 22:33:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ameriya
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?

Actually, genetic manipulation is the way that I do my style of mods. While the mods are locked into a recessive state-it would be horribly negligent to do otherwise-I would recommend that you procreate in an unmodified clone.
Honestly, any fetus should have a whole genetic workup before it's brought to term. That way, we can fix problems before they start.

So, if anyone knows my work, I was lead on the R32G7 resistant marrow. It uses the K2L5_a(e) retrovirus vector to deliver a Chondrichthyes splice into the DNA of the patient's marrow. It's an incredibly cheap and effective way of treating blood cancers.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#103 - 2015-07-01 00:41:07 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?


I have very little issue with body modifications on their own. I'm not overly fond of genetic manipulation and DNA splicing to accomplish it but that is a personal grievance.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2015-07-01 01:07:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
I'd LOVE to own that tiny little bra of yours! It'd barely cover my nipples! Lol

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#105 - 2015-07-03 01:53:36 UTC
Hmm.

Still not as offensive an image to me compared to say, sexual anthropomorphic spacecraft. I never will understand why people into anthropomorphic sub-cultures have to make everything so sexual.

I mean so okay, some Gallentean wants to be a Thorax in real life, why do you have to wear a mankini then?

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2015-07-03 03:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
It's already annoying enough having to go and get all my tattoos back after I lose a clone (except the Voluval, which, oddly enough, is transferable between clones. Don't know why), and it only gets worse as a Matari capsuleer grows in age and experience. Then there's that irritating search and installation of replacement implants. If I were to use mechanical prosthetic I will also have to amputate myself every time I replace a clone!

I can't imagine getting the body mods being any more pleasant.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#107 - 2015-07-03 04:09:20 UTC
Ameriya, would you be able to make body modifications that are like body parts of slaver hounds?
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#108 - 2015-07-03 08:17:14 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?

Actually, genetic manipulation is the way that I do my style of mods. While the mods are locked into a recessive state-it would be horribly negligent to do otherwise-I would recommend that you procreate in an unmodified clone.
Honestly, any fetus should have a whole genetic workup before it's brought to term. That way, we can fix problems before they start.

So, if anyone knows my work, I was lead on the R32G7 resistant marrow. It uses the K2L5_a(e) retrovirus vector to deliver a Chondrichthyes splice into the DNA of the patient's marrow. It's an incredibly cheap and effective way of treating blood cancers.


Genetic manipulation does not equate to genetic transmission to offsprings...

It has to specifically splice genetic material present in the gonads where it can be then transmitted to children.

Most body-mods I heard of usually do not do that. I am pretty sure as well that transmissible body-modding is perfectly illegal in many places, but maybe I am mistaken...
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2015-07-03 08:44:47 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?

Actually, genetic manipulation is the way that I do my style of mods. While the mods are locked into a recessive state-it would be horribly negligent to do otherwise-I would recommend that you procreate in an unmodified clone.
Honestly, any fetus should have a whole genetic workup before it's brought to term. That way, we can fix problems before they start.

So, if anyone knows my work, I was lead on the R32G7 resistant marrow. It uses the K2L5_a(e) retrovirus vector to deliver a Chondrichthyes splice into the DNA of the patient's marrow. It's an incredibly cheap and effective way of treating blood cancers.


Genetic manipulation does not equate to genetic transmission to offsprings...

It has to specifically splice genetic material present in the gonads where it can be then transmitted to children.

Most body-mods I heard of usually do not do that. I am pretty sure as well that transmissible body-modding is perfectly illegal in many places, but maybe I am mistaken...


Unless the body mod gene manipulation is performed on the gonads, it shouldn't be genetically transmissible. That's basic genetics knowledge.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2015-07-03 09:16:07 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Hmm, are democracy, freedom and hedonism haram too?


They are simply constituent parts of a good weekend to me...
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#111 - 2015-07-03 11:47:54 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications?


I have no problem with body modifications. I have several of them.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2015-07-03 13:30:11 UTC
Hmmm...... come to think of it, I'd love to have a sexa full size poster of my naked backside, with a fluffy white tail attached to my rear end........

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#113 - 2015-07-03 15:25:21 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?

Actually, genetic manipulation is the way that I do my style of mods. While the mods are locked into a recessive state-it would be horribly negligent to do otherwise-I would recommend that you procreate in an unmodified clone.
Honestly, any fetus should have a whole genetic workup before it's brought to term. That way, we can fix problems before they start.

So, if anyone knows my work, I was lead on the R32G7 resistant marrow. It uses the K2L5_a(e) retrovirus vector to deliver a Chondrichthyes splice into the DNA of the patient's marrow. It's an incredibly cheap and effective way of treating blood cancers.


Genetic manipulation does not equate to genetic transmission to offsprings...

It has to specifically splice genetic material present in the gonads where it can be then transmitted to children.

Most body-mods I heard of usually do not do that. I am pretty sure as well that transmissible body-modding is perfectly illegal in many places, but maybe I am mistaken...


Unless the body mod gene manipulation is performed on the gonads, it shouldn't be genetically transmissible. That's basic genetics knowledge.


Mh... Thank you, that is a way better summarized than I did...
Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2015-07-04 03:44:18 UTC

Elmund Egivand wrote:
Unless the body mod gene manipulation is performed on the gonads, it shouldn't be genetically transmissible. That's basic genetics knowledge.


We wonder if the mind of our current clone is irreversibly polluted after traversing this thread. No amount of self-inflicted lashes will cleanse the stain.

\J/

veiled and bound

my origin story (on eve-backstage)

Ginia Itonula
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#115 - 2015-07-11 23:59:06 UTC
Well, that's a first: I have seen something that both I and the Amarrian Clergy could describe as "Heresy".
Ameriya
Doomheim
#116 - 2015-07-12 01:15:36 UTC
I should note that this service is for capsuleers. The DNA splice will be a part of their complete genome by the cloning processes. While it would be possible to procreate and pass on the modifications, all clones that are produced with mods will be sterile.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2015-07-12 10:07:55 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
I should note that this service is for capsuleers. The DNA splice will be a part of their complete genome by the cloning processes. While it would be possible to procreate and pass on the modifications, all clones that are produced with mods will be sterile.


So I reckon you are using a highly virulent virus that adds additional chromosomes into every cell in a person's body?

Are you sure that's safe?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ameriya
Doomheim
#118 - 2015-07-12 13:12:57 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
I should note that this service is for capsuleers. The DNA splice will be a part of their complete genome by the cloning processes. While it would be possible to procreate and pass on the modifications, all clones that are produced with mods will be sterile.


So I reckon you are using a highly virulent virus that adds additional chromosomes into every cell in a person's body?

Are you sure that's safe?


*sighs* No. I engineer the DNA that we use to grow the clone. You will get a brand new clone body with the mods.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2015-07-13 03:53:12 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
I should note that this service is for capsuleers. The DNA splice will be a part of their complete genome by the cloning processes. While it would be possible to procreate and pass on the modifications, all clones that are produced with mods will be sterile.


So I reckon you are using a highly virulent virus that adds additional chromosomes into every cell in a person's body?

Are you sure that's safe?


*sighs* No. I engineer the DNA that we use to grow the clone. You will get a brand new clone body with the mods.


Unless something has changed, clones prior to usage are empty shells, scaffolds of extracellular-matrices and nucleus-less cells, bathed in saline solution and kept in cryo. They only start taking on characteristics of the individual when moved into reserve, whereupon template DNA (based on the individual's genetic information) is introduced into the clone body, which is then treated in a soup of hormones, cytokines and other signaling molecules for an undisclosed period of time in a controlled environment. What exactly did you change?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#120 - 2015-07-13 04:44:46 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't have a huge problem with body modifications? It's not like they're genetic and would pass on to your offspring, is it?


You're far from alone, Pilot. I say to each their own as well.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.