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Another titan tracking whine topic
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Hemmo Paskiainen
#1 - 2011-12-25 09:50:47 UTC
Nerf it please I want to fight people can its kinda hard if you get blobbed by 12 titans everytime....

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-25 09:54:34 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Nerf it please I want to fight people can its kinda hard if you get blobbed by 12 titans everytime....

No one cares about your dumb titan.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
xanthrax
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-12-25 10:59:36 UTC
thats **** fit PL titans with tracking enhancements.

you have to had 50 dreds to fight one - that sux.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#4 - 2011-12-25 15:18:43 UTC
When the boot is on the other foot you moan like no tomorrow, yet when you guys do it you go on about how leet you are in local. Pathetic...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#5 - 2011-12-25 18:48:47 UTC
I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.)

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Hemmo Paskiainen
#6 - 2011-12-25 19:21:03 UTC
Dirk Magnum wrote:
I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.)


im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped.
Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang.
Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head.
Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors.
Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet
Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble.
Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins


Im not mad, i just want to kill people but getting titans on your head everytime is getting anoying

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#7 - 2011-12-25 20:11:26 UTC
Terribly sorry, CCP already gave supers their allotted 15 minutes of Dev-time this cycle .. please standby, next pass will be in 18 months Smile

Supers would be borderline broken-as-hell even if they lived up to CCP initial expectations (only a handful in existence), now that they number in the thousands ... hahahahahahahaha.
Ryuce
#8 - 2011-12-26 15:49:11 UTC
It's kind of interesting to see an alliance deploy (and lose) titans and then complain about hostiles blobbing with titans. Especially when said alliance is know for blobbing themselves, see -A-'s use of Drake blobs etc.

Maybe you should consider joining another entity if you dislike these titan blobs?

Furthermore, what do you thinking that these massive super weapons with complex weapon systems should be able to do?
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#9 - 2011-12-26 16:13:57 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:

im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped.
Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang.
Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head.
Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors.
Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet
Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble.
Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins

Hemmo, agree with the sentiment. But it would help a lot if FCs understood the concept of transversal. Get right on top of those titans and orbit them, instead of aligning straight away from them P

What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644
I likegirls
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2011-12-26 16:16:56 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Dirk Magnum wrote:
I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.)


im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped.
Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang.
Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head.
Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors.
Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet
Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble.
Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins


Im not mad, i just want to kill people but getting titans on your head everytime is getting anoying


No, you are mad.
Hemmo Paskiainen
#11 - 2011-12-26 22:01:18 UTC
Ryuce wrote:
It's kind of interesting to see an alliance deploy (and lose) titans and then complain about hostiles blobbing with titans. Especially when said alliance is know for blobbing themselves, see -A-'s use of Drake blobs etc.

Maybe you should consider joining another entity if you dislike these titan blobs?
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Furthermore, what do you thinking that these massive super weapons with complex weapon systems should be able to do?

you fail, i made this topic before that, so nice try but you fail. blobbing is something everyone does as numbets are never equal. nice try to derail this topic but that not the point. me being in - A- has nothing to do with this, yet sgain nice try you have to be pl alt. i dont care what titan should do, i do know they aint should be this powerfull versus subcapitals.

to jack; i like you but tracking titans can still track pods and frigats. in any ship you have only drop transvercel once to get insta poppod. for even the best pilots it is impossible to have a high transvercel at all time. it is a matter of putting every gun on each frig and just wait.

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Hemmo Paskiainen
#12 - 2011-12-26 22:43:25 UTC
btw can the devs pls stop moving this around; from General Discussion to Ship & Modules to Warefare & Tactics

move back to ships pls as its about a ship...

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
In your local
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-12-27 14:09:06 UTC
Because triple ghey have no supers? Stop being a pansy and tell makalu to grow a pair and drop your own ffs.

P.S. Keep posting these threads bro, maybe if you post hard enough CCP will give you a secret weapon that kills titans in 1 shot just for you. It would have a funnel to catch your tears which power it.
Julia Connor
P R O M E T H E U S
From Anoikis
#14 - 2011-12-27 15:35:08 UTC
At best, you can get the tracking of a 1400mm mael or slightly better on an erebus so I don't see the problem here. You'll deffo get hit if you don't move which I'm pretty sure is what happened with the cases you pointed out.

P.S. We all want to have fun but it doesn't make sense to whine about not winning when you aren't even trying. If a certain side can field 50 supers, certain people will expect something fruitful to come out of an engagement while putting in much less effort. The same said people will even go to extents such as asking for nerfs so they can be competitive. It just doesn't work.
Sphit Ker
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2011-12-30 05:55:12 UTC
huh huh?

Maybe it comes down to the way bonus is applied? It's all percent based! Think along Reactor Control Unit versus Auxiliary Power Core on frigates. Take a top of the line officer tracking computer on a Titan vs the same damn thing on a whatever else. Maybe the boost of a Cormack TC on an Erebus is disproportionally large compared to the boost of the same module on a BS?

Because of percentage?

...just saying...

It knows what you think.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#16 - 2011-12-31 07:01:27 UTC
50 guys paid 54B ISK each, and this made their investment worthwhile. This thread is worth a quarter of a trillion ISK, I am sure.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Twisted Girl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-31 11:28:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Twisted Girl
Basicly those titans are full blaap fit(3 damage mods, 2 TE+2 tracking computers+ 2-3 sebos), even if there was just a slight remotly chance for a counterdrop they would have to fit tank fit(with max 2 tracking computers each with tank fit low and singel sensorbooster) and not been able to hit stuff like they was doing. that and half of your dudes have no clue what they are doing(lets warp in 10 tier 3 battlecruisers at 100km to snipe on titan fleet anyone??)
The only tank the titans got is like 1 damage control.

Enemy ships are also painted/webbed up by the supercarrier support.

Tho your too scared to counterdrop with commitment for even 1 fully cap fit bridge ragnarok that was caught with its pants down almost alone so VOV(dropping 40 drakes dont count as commitment), then we might aswell fit for max gank and go turkey shooting some -a-.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#18 - 2011-12-31 13:43:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
I might as well explain the context of my earlier post.

-A- set up two large POS's in 46DP stacked full with hardeners, they also timed it for the US TZ. They based in each POS a tracking Titan, they would then send sub-caps out and camp or bubble the station, if we attacked them they would bring in the Titans. We had one of them use their DD on a Rapier which was killing two of their dramiels. Following on from the DD nerf and the aggro change they jumped out their Titans, helped by PL being around.

The Titan pilots smacked continuously at how leet they were and how useless RA pets were, they did this when the RA supers were not around, so if the Titans were caught they would log off if caught and would in all likelyhood after 15 minutes survive what DPS was around. The change to aggro made this too great a risk for them.

So when you get a whine like this when someone else does this to them even after the nerf, one has to treat it with the contempt that it deserves.

Our lot never moaned about the game mechanics when this was done to us, we just picked off the sub-caps and waited for the Titan nerf and the aggro change, if -A- had dared to risk their titans after the nerf doing this then we would have killed them, PL is of course doing it properly and are doing it after the nerf, I for one know who are elte PvP'rs and who are not.

The whine by the OP is why so many people have a certain lack of respect for -A-

http://piratenation.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11571059

Edit: Corrected Typo, 2nd Edit added link to Rapier DD kill

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#19 - 2011-12-31 14:06:14 UTC
I personally think titans should be allowed to doomsday subcaps again. Those who disagree are poor peasants who are weak and jealous and should get richer. If I invested more time and money into something I should automatically win.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#20 - 2011-12-31 14:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Parsee789 wrote:
I personally think titans should be allowed to doomsday subcaps again. Those who disagree are poor peasants who are weak and jealous and should get richer. If I invested more time and money into something I should automatically win.


I have no issue with Titans being able to doomsday sub caps, and I am a poor peasent who cannot afford to buy a Titan, not that I want one of course.

What I do welcome is the change in aggro, now we can kill them...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
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