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My First Wardec - The Chronicle
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Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-07-09 20:41:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Freya Sertan
Not against me, no; against another player.

So as not to make GD any worse than it is and really, the story will fit here let me link the original thread on GD and call out Ralph King-Griffin's post and my subsequent reply.

If this kind of thread should be in My Eve, I'll put it there instead but I think it fits here better. Will also post under my main here unless requested that I post under the alt who declared the war.

Locator running; update in a day or so once the war begins.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-07-09 20:45:21 UTC
This is also a very awesome learning experience for me. I have no real exposure to this kind of gameplay so when you see my errors, yes when, call them out. I'll happily listen to what is said and learn from it. This will likely cost me a lot of ISK but I don't care. Eve != ISK; this is Eve == fun.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Valkin Mordirc
#3 - 2015-07-09 21:27:42 UTC
As a few tips.


Locate R Us is a channel that provides locates at modest fee, I think it's 5mil?


Looking like a Target, is very important. Using T1 ships to your best advantage is imperative. Though just being by yourself is sometimes enough for people to drop on your shinier stuff.


People will act stupid if they know it's one person coming after them. Log out your wardeccing alt next to them and keep a scout watching them. When they become vulnerable log your Wardec toon back on and take the advantage.

I've caught a Barghest and an Orca just because I was in a Solo corp, and the people thought just because I was alone I wouldn't be a problem.


Also being by yourself mistakes become even more taxing when they happen. Make sure you have know whats about to happen before you act. Don't over underestimate the people you've decced. Also don't overestimate them either. Sometimes an idiot in a Mack is just an idiot in a mack.


AND DONT FORGET THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF THEM,

LIKE REALLY. If you forget this I will wardec you and murder you to DEATH.



Have fun. =D
#DeleteTheWeak
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#4 - 2015-07-10 01:12:50 UTC
I endorse this product and/or learning experience

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Kavoro Pel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-07-10 01:31:02 UTC
Also in my experience it's paid off to wait a day or 2 into the war, to make them feel comfortable again. The very second they get comfortable again, thats when you strike.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-07-10 01:33:13 UTC
Kavoro Pel wrote:
Also in my experience it's paid off to wait a day or 2 into the war, to make them feel comfortable again. The very second they get comfortable again, thats when you strike.


The same thought I had earlier. I've moved everything to a staging area and now I'll chill out a couple days.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Valkin Mordirc
#7 - 2015-07-10 01:47:00 UTC
Also if your computer can handle it.


Leave yourself logged in docked up or cloaked. You will annoy the ever loving **** out of your Targets because they now can't use watchlist to see when your active or not.
#DeleteTheWeak
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#8 - 2015-07-10 10:59:46 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Also if your computer can handle it.


Leave yourself logged in docked up or cloaked. You will annoy the ever loving **** out of your Targets because they now can't use watchlist to see when your active or not.


This, a million times this.

Also, if you are always logged in, they get...sloppy.

Hilarity can then ensue.

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#9 - 2015-07-10 11:28:36 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Also if your computer can handle it.


Leave yourself logged in docked up or cloaked. You will annoy the ever loving **** out of your Targets because they now can't use watchlist to see when your active or not.

This goes hand in hand with deccing them for weeks or even months solid with no repreive but with no actual sign of effort on your part. eventually if they are highsec focused they will go back to what they do and then you strike Big smile

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2015-07-10 12:43:09 UTC
The two most basic and imperative tools are the neutral scout and locator agent. Locators can of course be outsourced.

Here is a brief video guide to hunting war targets by the pirate king himself.

The specific methodology you should use is going to vary depending on your precise goals, but that should get you started.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2015-07-10 13:15:31 UTC
Oh dear, what have I startedBig smileTwisted

Freya, feel free to hit me up in-game if I'm online, I'll happily offer support (of the neutral kind ) assuming my current obligations are allowing.

Hopefully this will be a fruitful war for you, be prepared for that not to be the case though, patience is key here.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2015-07-10 13:30:57 UTC
Given that your target is a single moronic individual with self imposed limitations on his own capabilities I expect that he will not attempt to defend himself in any way whatsoever and will hide 100% of the time. Kills are not particularly likely, however it should be possible to utterly obliterate his gameplay by continuously being present in system with him in basically any ship. Just having a red star in local with him will probably cause him to suspend all of his gameplay. You may manage to catch him mining a few times though.

If this is the case time and persistence are your weapons of choice, just maintain the war for as long as possible and he should ruin the game for himself.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-07-10 14:43:33 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Given that your target is a single moronic individual with self imposed limitations on his own capabilities I expect that he will not attempt to defend himself in any way whatsoever and will hide 100% of the time. Kills are not particularly likely, however it should be possible to utterly obliterate his gameplay by continuously being present in system with him in basically any ship. Just having a red star in local with him will probably cause him to suspend all of his gameplay. You may manage to catch him mining a few times though.

If this is the case time and persistence are your weapons of choice, just maintain the war for as long as possible and he should ruin the game for himself.


My plan. I am keeping a neutral scout cloaked in his home system watching for any sign of his undock. I can run two clients at a time no problem so I will log my alt in today as the war goes live and leave him cloaked at a safe in system or an adjacent one in case he jumps immediately.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2015-07-10 14:48:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Pretty much, cultivate complacency and then abruptly exploit it.

Edit: think about investing in a true sansa scram (3points of disruption) as he will likely have stabs on anything he does undock.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#15 - 2015-07-10 15:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
If you require assistance or it turns out he has a structure that needs bashing hit me up.

Remember kids, maximize the antifun your opponent is experiencing, blowing up ships is secondary to ruining everything.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-07-10 17:00:50 UTC
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#17 - 2015-07-10 17:12:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Fly an active tanked HAC

u wot m8

I mean seriously, that's some scrub-tier crap right there.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#18 - 2015-07-10 23:53:51 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Fly an active tanked HAC

u wot m8

I mean seriously, that's some scrub-tier crap right there.

Ahacs are completely legit for a lot of solo work which is what it's talking about where he mentions it... personally I role with dedicated logi most of the time but if I didn't have that option and I was a bit newer it's a suggestion I wish I'd read earlier in my career

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#19 - 2015-07-11 00:53:17 UTC
Trust a mermaid to not even grasp what is wrong with the suggestion I quoted.
Paranoid Loyd
#20 - 2015-07-11 00:59:56 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Trust a mermaid to not even grasp what is wrong with the suggestion I quoted.

Care to elaborate? I am curious why you said that. Further, if you are solo and at war what ships would you suggest?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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