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Pirate Faction BS Calibration
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Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#1 - 2015-07-08 21:57:57 UTC
Curious as to why and also hoping to get going, why is their calibration at 350 instead of 400? T1 and T2 BS's have 400 calibration, Pirate faction takes the best of 2 factions for a superior ship but we get less calibration? lol makes no sense to me. IMO they should be raised to 400 like all other BS's.Big smile
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#2 - 2015-07-08 22:17:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Rawketsled
Balance.

T2 ships only get two rig slots to prevent them being OP. Pirate ships get a similar limitation.

[EDIT] So, no, this change should not happen. Eve-O should not be pirate-hulls online.
Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#3 - 2015-07-08 22:21:16 UTC
How would giving them 50 more calibration make them OP? gives them the ability to fit 1 more T1 rig, well some T1 rigs or a few 2nd T2 rigs. Its not like OMG, its the unstoppable invasions of Vindi's and Bhaalgorns. And yeah the 2 rig for T2 BS's does stink also, but at least they still have 400 calibration. But that is for another topic.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#4 - 2015-07-08 22:29:40 UTC
As you said, pirate factions take the best of two factions and make a superior ship.

I don't know why you'd want to make them even more superior.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2015-07-08 22:36:19 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
How would giving them 50 more calibration make them OP? gives them the ability to fit 1 more T1 rig, well some T1 rigs or a few 2nd T2 rigs. Its not like OMG, its the unstoppable invasions of Vindi's and Bhaalgorns. And yeah the 2 rig for T2 BS's does stink also, but at least they still have 400 calibration. But that is for another topic.


because they do not need to fit two damage rigs on top of the damage bonuses they already get

and T2 having to rigs is a good thing not a bad thing

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-07-09 05:34:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
and T2 having to rigs is a good thing not a bad thing

Absolutely agree. Without that being done to T2s, T3s would be a tad bit less of a master race.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-07-09 06:47:52 UTC
I like that tech 1 hulls are generally supposed to be more generalized. Part of that comes with having more calibration. It gives a special use for tech 1.

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#8 - 2015-07-09 07:00:34 UTC
I would love this. All the lovely fits that just barely don't work suddenly do! Oh, wait, those are OP as ****, and would spoil everyone elses fun, and then I'd get blue balled.

This is a good balance mechanism, and should be left in. Besides, 5 gets you 10 that the pirates already cut some of the corners in how it is put together that would be susceptible to being cut to enhance something else.

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Artificial Memories
#9 - 2015-07-09 11:00:10 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
How would giving them 50 more calibration make them OP? gives them the ability to fit 1 more T1 rig, well some T1 rigs or a few 2nd T2 rigs. Its not like OMG, its the unstoppable invasions of Vindi's and Bhaalgorns. And yeah the 2 rig for T2 BS's does stink also, but at least they still have 400 calibration. But that is for another topic.


Many T1 boats can be fitted with 2 damage mods and a T2 rig to end up at around 3 damagemods worth of things. Pirate BS got hilarious dps values to start with, so the 350 calib limitation keeps them down a little for those edge fits.

As an example, an ASB orthrus currently has around 40k damage in a RLM clip, with 400 calib though you could skip the bay thruster and go for a collision rig, increasing that to 44k damage a clip. That's 10% more than the current *to much*...

You can check a Bargh with a T2 collision, rapid heavies and 2 hyperspatials, too. Looks silly. Almost 80k damage in one RHM clip with fury and 63k with precisions...
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-07-09 14:29:04 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
Curious as to why and also hoping to get going, why is their calibration at 350 instead of 400? T1 and T2 BS's have 400 calibration, Pirate faction takes the best of 2 factions for a superior ship but we get less calibration? lol makes no sense to me. IMO they should be raised to 400 like all other BS's.Big smile


No they should not.

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