Wormholes

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i dont think this is overthinking. the biggest fundamental difference from low class to high class is the use of capitals. If i wanted to live in low class space i would or better yet id prob be in pospy or something.

Sure stupid ppl do stupid things and think its a good idea to rat in a c1 using an archon.... but im just going to pretend i never saw that.

No, Frig Holes are already there for this sort of stuff and no one uses them.


1b holes already feel extremely restricting, can't even imagine what a half a bill hole will feel like.

Mass limit 300,000t = 110 bombers each way.

or 80 Svipuls

Gents, blobs will fit through anything they can. Putting in mass-restricted wormholes of any kind will make Keskora Yaari feel like a genius and let him brag around the fire in the Wormholers Exclusive No Goonbexx Gentleman's Lodge, but won't stop anything. People will bring 150-man sniper Hecate fleets through wormholes if they have to.

replacing Z142's with Z060's isn't the solution. it's better than more frig holes, but it doesn't address the issues.

I also really wonder what CCP's brains are on. They complain that S199's are too prevalent and too hard to collapse. That's a staggering exposition of lack of knowledge and experience. S199's are rarer than a two sentence Chance Ravinne post, or a Wingspan pilot taking a fight; they are not any harder to crush than a n432 or K162 to C5s.

If anything, S199's could use their mass reduction to being a Z060, and if you want more small-mass limit wormholes, put them in from null to null and null to low and low to low.

Oh, and can C4's get their full-sized transients to nullsec and lowsec? Pretty please?

Regardless of how people feel about the reduction of the current holes, adding these proposed low mass holes seems like a giant waste of time that won't do anything useful for the game (much like frig holes).

Also, if adding these is fine, then why remove the old holes? Makes no sense AT ALL...

no static k space exits c5,c6 please. unless only black holes get them..

you see what i did there!

I'm starting to think the only purpose of asking what we think about new 'features' is to figure out how much resistance you would get out of this community. "Lets see, do we have 20 pages of solid blocks of salt?? We do?!?!" Push that into the next expansion!"

If there is a strong resistance to it, CCP will implement it. Any ideas that WH residents think will stifle our gameplay, they will think is a good idea. Great for game dynamics.

You're going to find that a majority of the sub won't agree with the changes, and yet they will be implemented anyway. I don't really understand the point in asking for feedback anymore.

Whatever CCP. We're still going to figure out ways to dumpster everything. You keep your s*** coming.

Nah stick it!

Improve the QFG for the null sec people and give wormholers the ability to create new unstable wormholes as part of the structure revamp.

I'm tired of the little tweaks and ballsing up of mechanics in place of something cool to do/build.

I find it absurd that this is even an idea we are entertaining enough to present.

Wasn't the whole idea we got frig holes to increase connections between WH's and null/k-space. Frig holes are such a waste of time why would we want more low mass WH's?

I also don't think the null nerf will be as much of an issue as it has been made out to be.

I would love to see the figures on usage stats of frig Wh's before we go asking CCP for more useless crap tbh.

EDIT: Also why would you even want a WH with less mass to null????? Mostly null roams go like this - take a few guys, find content yell for more lads to help out (Just like those null guys are cynoing in more help). Wouldn't lower mass holes just tilt this even more to the favor of null residents. Why do you want to gimp yourselves further and why would you care that null blobs are moving through your chain, You should be ******* ecstatic about them using your chain.

The amount of C4's in our chains is massive after they obtained dual static but (unlikely any other wh space) they are lacking kspace connection other than frig null... My proposal is to load them up with wandering 0.0>C4 C4>0.0 connections 2 bill max mass 300kt max jumpable, 24 h life - that would be my slight suggestion for new wormhole type under Kes idea. Also increase the spawn rate of C248 and U319 to make C6 space a little more interesting.

Goonbexx - Can you please comment on this cos Chris is right CCP will implement it anyways & us wormholers meant to have a voice? clearly not...