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Corporation Thief - De'Nab
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-07-07 20:03:16 UTC
De'Nab, I would like to offer my services as a defense attorney in this case. The prosecution has made it blatantly obvious that they don't even know how much went missing, and I'd say we have a good shot at reaching a speedy resolution while placing the blame squarely where it belongs: On Bob.

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-07-07 20:06:29 UTC
my client may be willing to settle and place blame on BOB, but she will continue to exercise her right to bounty the defendant, she may be willing to consider referring to the defendant as that Bob a cursed corp thief. I will have to contact her to see.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

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De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2015-07-07 21:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: De'Nab
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
De'Nab, I would like to offer my services as a defense attorney in this case. The prosecution has made it blatantly obvious that they don't even know how much went missing, and I'd say we have a good shot at reaching a speedy resolution while placing the blame squarely where it belongs: On Bob.



You're hired, pro-bono publico of course.
There's just too many thieves in Eve these days! Lol
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-07-07 21:23:09 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Mr. De-Nab,
While I am willing to work pro bono, I believe it would be only fair if I share in 10% of any settlement that comes out in your favor. I hope you will consider this.
- Bebop

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-07-07 21:26:44 UTC
Your honor, while my client may have taken *some* of the items from the general usage hangar, this was to ensure that they were used, as intended by the hangar's purposed. Furthermore, it is a well documented fact that wormhole life and prolonged exposure to unsecured assets can cause paranoia and desocialization of the capsuleer. Bob allows these symptoms together to encourage the capsuleer to "steal" the said unsecured assets in an attempt to prevent other capsuleers from doing the same. In light of these findings I believe we can look past this small mistransgression and move on to the real core of the issue here.

The Prosecution has stated that 3 billion isk in items were taken, and only has proof of 608,179,013.68 isk in items in the cited kill mail. In fact my client only liberated a little under two billion isk in general usage assets. This exaggerated claim has caused Mr. De'Nab emotional damage, and I believe he should be awarded isk equal to the value of the missing goods that cannot be verified. Mr. De'Nab has stated that the total value liberated was just under two bill. The defense would be willing to treat this as a full two billion and only require one billion isk be paid in recompense.

We may also consider accepting a full body cavity search instead of isk payment, but that is up to my client.

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Zirashi
Cyclical Destruction
#46 - 2015-07-07 21:58:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Zirashi
De'Nab wrote:
I stole several billion isk?

I wish it was but in reality it was closer to just under 2bill

De'Nab wrote:
I honestly very nearly just walked away until an ex-corpie asked me if I'd ever done corp-theft before. So thats another box in my "things to do in Eve" ticked.

The mob demands justice, death to the Nitshe alts!

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-07-07 22:05:21 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Your honor, while my client may have taken *some* of the items from the general usage hangar, this was to ensure that they were used, as intended by the hangar's purposed. Furthermore, it is a well documented fact that wormhole life and prolonged exposure to unsecured assets can cause paranoia and desocialization of the capsuleer. Bob allows these symptoms together to encourage the capsuleer to "steal" the said unsecured assets in an attempt to prevent other capsuleers from doing the same. In light of these findings I believe we can look past this small mistransgression and move on to the real core of the issue here.

The Prosecution has stated that 3 billion isk in items were taken, and only has proof of 608,179,013.68 isk in items in the cited kill mail. In fact my client only liberated a little under two billion isk in general usage assets. This exaggerated claim has caused Mr. De'Nab emotional damage, and I believe he should be awarded isk equal to the value of the missing goods that cannot be verified. Mr. De'Nab has stated that the total value liberated was just under two bill. The defense would be willing to treat this as a full two billion and only require one billion isk be paid in recompense.

We may also consider accepting a full body cavity search instead of isk payment, but that is up to my client.


Ah but your client in his post admits he STOLE it . That blocks your fair use defense by his own admission.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2015-07-07 23:03:59 UTC
I'll leave this with you guys.
I'm going to bed.....my pod hurts!
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2015-07-08 02:56:26 UTC
Ladies and gents, Judge, I must admit I didnt want to do this.

However, I see no choice.

I am evoking my authority as Lord Inquisitor of the C&P Nitshe Inquisition to close the case in favor of the defendant. As this happened in JSPACE, I have sole jurisdiction on the matter. Neither the OP or the accused have shown symptoms of being Nitshe alts, and the 100% of possession law is in effect. The accused removed items from a hanger that he had access to take from, and in EVE, this constitutes his right to remove said items, ammo, or equipment.

OP, you are hereby required to pay this court a sum of 2b ISK for services rendered.

I am suspending all but 500m of the fine pending a six month review of your abilities to run your corp in JSPACE. If you let another incident occur or remove your corp from the hole, the rest of the fine will be levied.

Failure to meet the established requirements will result in trolling, ganking, and possible other bad things depending on our level of boredom in EVE at any given time.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#50 - 2015-07-08 06:36:15 UTC
*composes himself after laughing for 5 mins*
So if the OP is not guilty and the defendant is not guilty by way of BOB and this is CoCaP...
BOB IS NITSHE
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Sasha Nyemtsov
Doomheim
#51 - 2015-07-08 07:33:30 UTC
Hilarious thread. I'm not sure that someone with the name De (The) and Nab (Steal) would/should have made it very far in a UK Corp.

Here, it's a known synonym for 'thieve', though falling somewhat out of use now, I think.

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2015-07-08 16:20:17 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Ladies and gents, Judge, I must admit I didnt want to do this.

However, I see no choice.

I am evoking my authority as Lord Inquisitor of the C&P Nitshe Inquisition to close the case in favor of the defendant. As this happened in JSPACE, I have sole jurisdiction on the matter. Neither the OP or the accused have shown symptoms of being Nitshe alts, and the 100% of possession law is in effect. The accused removed items from a hanger that he had access to take from, and in EVE, this constitutes his right to remove said items, ammo, or equipment.

OP, you are hereby required to pay this court a sum of 2b ISK for services rendered.

I am suspending all but 500m of the fine pending a six month review of your abilities to run your corp in JSPACE. If you let another incident occur or remove your corp from the hole, the rest of the fine will be levied.

Failure to meet the established requirements will result in trolling, ganking, and possible other bad things depending on our level of boredom in EVE at any given time.



I will remind the the respeceted Lord Inquisitor that he he is only authorized to conduct investigations on the courts behalf and at the courts leisure. anything more is to overstep your bounds and i will insist on a swift spanking.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#53 - 2015-07-08 19:12:01 UTC
Lilith Folkvardr wrote:
Hello people of the forums,

Just a heads up for any people in the future, about a character called De'Nab. He is a Corporation thief, stole several billion ISK from people he befriended in Corp and shared an SMA with, as well as stole the entirety of our general use storage for all members (Amounted to around 1 billion ISK). I have tried to warn his current Corporation, but they just say they know him in RL and that the trust him, so this warning is mainly for anyone who accepts him or his Alts (Names below) into their Corporation, so you know to either kick or be careful with him.

Names/Alts:

De'Nab
Ivana Pumpalot
Cindy Vain

According to the rules of this thread, I am not allowed to post zKillmails with the names in shown for some reason, if this rule only applies when trying to embarrass somebody, and not when trying to show proof that somebody is a thief, then let me know, and I will post it here, however, if you look up the zKillboard and his name, you will find a Hauler he was killed in trying to escape with the last shipment of our general use stuff from the SMA/Hangers. Since then, everyone has been given restricted access, which, is what we should have done in the first place, but you live and you learn, just want to make sure others don't have to learn this way.

On top of this, if anyone can supply zKillmails, from this day forward, where they have killed him and his Pod, I will pay 5mil ISK per 100mil ISK his ship was worth, and if his Pod is worth 500mil ISK plus there will be a 25mil ISK bonus, and before you say it, yes, this is petty, and while I will be killing him if I ever see him, I will appreciate any and all help in making him pay for stealing from our members.

Thank you for reading, and sorry for lack of proof, I didn't want to break any forums rules and I think I have followed them.. Please let me know if I have broken any, and I will modifiy the post to suit.


Oh Lilith - you just created the ultimate wet dream for some of these forum jokers....I can imagine what they were doing all last night....lets just say, they are probably all investing in a new box of kleenex (tissues to you non-Brits) today.....

And don't worry - you broke no rules - no PROPER rules anyway ;-)

Alt and proud
Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#54 - 2015-07-08 19:22:06 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Ladies and gents, Judge, I must admit I didnt want to do this.

However, I see no choice.

I am evoking my authority as Lord Inquisitor of the C&P Nitshe Inquisition to close the case in favor of the defendant. As this happened in JSPACE, I have sole jurisdiction on the matter. Neither the OP or the accused have shown symptoms of being Nitshe alts, and the 100% of possession law is in effect. The accused removed items from a hanger that he had access to take from, and in EVE, this constitutes his right to remove said items, ammo, or equipment.

OP, you are hereby required to pay this court a sum of 2b ISK for services rendered.

I am suspending all but 500m of the fine pending a six month review of your abilities to run your corp in JSPACE. If you let another incident occur or remove your corp from the hole, the rest of the fine will be levied.

Failure to meet the established requirements will result in trolling, ganking, and possible other bad things depending on our level of boredom in EVE at any given time.



This is ridiculous - the defendant clearly admitted to theft, yet you rule against the OP.....disgraceful!

Never in my life have I seen such a clear miscarriage of justice - and absolute travesty. How can Leto have any credibility in front of the court now? This case should be thrown out....Nori - it is time to act otherwise you too will be clearly shown to be just a shill, if not a Nitsche alt, of Leto....

Alt and proud
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2015-07-08 19:47:53 UTC
Is it possible to change my plea?
Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#56 - 2015-07-08 20:38:47 UTC
De'Nab wrote:
Is it possible to change my plea?


Absolutely not! After your heinous actions and grudging admittance I'm surprised you still have the gall to show your face around here!

Your honour - the court should slap this criminal, but his own mouth, in chain immediately!

Alt and proud
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2015-07-08 20:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Dradis Aulmais wrote:

I will remind the the respeceted Lord Inquisitor that he he is only authorized to conduct investigations on the courts behalf and at the courts leisure. anything more is to overstep your bounds and i will insist on a swift spanking.


The inquisition derives its power from almighty Bob, dear counsellor, and serves at the courts side. However I do not answer to the honorable Judge.

I claim primary jurisdiction in all Jspace on the grounds of rooting out Nitshe alts.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2015-07-08 20:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Nofear Alt wrote:


Oh Lilith - you just created the ultimate wet dream for some of these forum jokers....I can imagine what they were doing all last night....lets just say, they are probably all investing in a new box of kleenex (tissues to you non-Brits) today.....

And don't worry - you broke no rules - no PROPER rules anyway ;-)


I'm married. I go through more boxes of Kleenex than you can shake a stick at, scared little alt. Your jabs are juvenile in nature and fail at anything more than a chortle. Work on your routine and get back to me.

Puss.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2015-07-08 20:58:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Nofear Alt wrote:

This is ridiculous - the defendant clearly admitted to theft, yet you rule against the OP.....disgraceful!

Never in my life have I seen such a clear miscarriage of justice - and absolute travesty. How can Leto have any credibility in front of the court now? This case should be thrown out....Nori - it is time to act otherwise you too will be clearly shown to be just a shill, if not a Nitsche alt, of Leto....


My credibility is assured by Bob, scared little alt.

I have a acquitted the accused based not on his testimony, but that he had access to take the items. He only took what was plainly set aside to take. He conducted no subterfuge, set no roles, and broke no boundaries. Hence, no legitimate charge can be levied. His statement, you say? He admitted, you say?

PAH.

He may have believed he committed the crime. But that has no meaning when no crime was committed.

My cause is just, and my judgement is sound. If you wish to challenge me, you are welcome to ask for the right of thunderdome.

The ruling against the OP is based on his inability to safeguard the assets of the corporation members that he is suppose to protect. Hence the fine and suspension of such.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2015-07-08 21:07:21 UTC
Considering that Mr. De'Nab was not informed of his right to an attorney prior to his previous statements, I move that they should be thrown out. He has not yet submitted an actual plea, which is something that Judge Noragen should request for the trial to continue. Furthermore, Mr. Thule is interfering with a lawfully established C&P court. While I doubt that there are other Nitsche alts present, Nitsche is not the only thing we care about here.

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