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What to do, what to do?

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2015-07-08 01:25:52 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Highsec PVP is not for the faint of heart, much waiting and disappointment are involved.

Sure, but the benefit is you get to learn while still getting dank frags (and minimizing loses). I think the risk v reward ratio is much better in hisec, and you can also fly *good* stuff -- instead of just endlessly trading cheap T1's tit-for-tat in RvB, FW or losec/null roams (as a newbro).

p.s.
This can provide further insights for those progressing from Mission-Flipping into Merccing.

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Once upon a time when the cost was much, much lower and people we slightly less dedicated to not ever trying to fight back I would have recommended it, but right now I don't, at least not for the super new.

im inclined to agree, the gratification is definitely there there but some(read lots) patience is required

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#22 - 2015-07-08 14:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
It's also a thing that can suddenly and unexpectedly go from being very easy to being absolute nightmare mode. One minute your major obstacle is trying to catch some elusive mission runner or miner, 4 hours later there's 5 flashing red Break-a-wish T3s swooping out of nowhere and oh crap this mining barge has me pointed.

People who haven't ever done a highsec war have the mistaken idea that they are entirely trivial, low risk activities, in reality you often end up putting way more on the line than you would by dropping a t1 frig into lowsec and you have to work much harder for each kill. Most people don't have the patience for it and many others get put off when their pride and joy pvp t3 or faction battleship gets blown up by an ally they didn't notice joined their war.

Highsec warfare really isn't something everyone is going to like. But like anything it is worth a try. Personally it's the only thing in the game I really consistently enjoy.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-07-08 15:06:03 UTC
be whatever you want to be unless you can be a pirate, then always be a pirate Big smile

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#24 - 2015-07-08 15:17:17 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's also a thing that can suddenly and unexpectedly go from being very easy to being absolute nightmare mode. One minute your major obstacle is trying to catch some elusive mission runner or miner, 4 hours later there's 5 flashing red Break-a-wish T3s swooping out of nowhere and oh crap this mining barge has me pointed.

People who haven't ever done a highsec war have the mistaken idea that they are entirely trivial, low risk activities, in reality you often end up putting way more on the line than you would by dropping a t1 frig into lowsec and you have to work much harder for each kill. Most people don't have the patience for it and many others get put off when their pride and joy pvp t3 or faction battleship gets blown up by an ally they didn't notice joined their war.

Highsec warfare really isn't something everyone is going to like. But like anything it is worth a try. Personally it's the only thing in the game I really consistently enjoy.

Hahaha yes, that's essentially it.
Last time we decked galactic whatever (never can remember the name) for some pocos to shoot , marmite allied and came for us with a 15 man t3 fleet with logi and boosters, Tora himself present, the lot of them hidden in some arse end system 3 jump out from our target waiting for us to start moving.
there were 4 of us online...

Luckily we scouted thoroughly and found them before moving,
well I say luckily , obviously we thought something might be up and checked where the suspicions amoound of unaccounted for marmites actually were.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#25 - 2015-07-08 15:28:12 UTC
Galactic Skyfleet Empire and the infamous Merc Coalition mess.

What's funny is that GSE were essentially scamming the living hell put of all the merc coalition members who were apparently to mathematically challenged to notice that they were basically protecting GSE for pocket change.

Incidentally now that RVB is basically dead POCOs may soon be up for grabs to anyone who can put up a 20 man fleet.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-07-08 15:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Some people like sitting alone on a quiet lake, occasionally casting their line out. Or like golf, where its 90% crap shots (for me) and that one beautiful shot that brings you back out next time... That's mission-flipping in a nutshell. If you like fishing or golf you might come to love it, especially if you enjoy crafting your own lures or experimenting with different types of bait. Its a personality-driven thing, just like not every military member is capable of the actual mental rigors of being a sniper and all it entails. When you do get a big fish on the line and have to fight it into the boat, there's nothing like it; and when that monster 300lb swordfish is lying at the bottom of your little rowboat you ask "did I really just do that?"...

I found a mix of the two was a sweet spot though, chasing merc targets using wardecs when targets would give a fight (or oblivious to danger..), and mission-flipping when things were slow. Another possible mix would be to join Marmite to get 'free' wardecs against 50% of EvE at any given time, while also mission flipping on the side when you want some quiet fishing.

That's the beauty of EvE though, there isn't a 'right' answer -- its about aligning your personality type to activities *you* find fun and 'magic moments' that result. My key message is thus though...

- No other activity in EvE is as gratifying as shooting another player in the face. Don't get stuck on the PVE hamster wheel.
- You don't have to go to losec or nullsec as a newbro to do it
- Being social in EvE is THE most important thing. Join a corp, make friends (and enemies...thats fun too) :)

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Would you like to know more?
Rannz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-07-08 17:55:40 UTC
I like golf. :)

I guess the thing I didn't realize when playing before is that there are so many things I could try my hand at until I find something that I really enjoy.

I do see the value in hooking up with other players though. The most fun I have had in the game has been when I was with a corp that had similar play styles to mine.

I'll make sure to heed all of the advice, make some friends........and enemies. Smile
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#28 - 2015-07-08 23:38:15 UTC
Just remember. There's someone out there that you really, really want to blow up. You just haven't met the guy yet.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#29 - 2015-07-08 23:39:38 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Just remember. There's someone out there that you really, really want to blow up. You just haven't met the guy yet.


But when you do, you both will know. Immediately.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#30 - 2015-07-09 13:28:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
And that is why you must hang with like-minded bros. When you find that one guy who absolutely must explode, you tell your bros why he must explode and they will agree.

Then you will all conspire together and that one dude has no god damned idea what he got himself into.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-07-10 12:27:12 UTC
Rannz wrote:
I played Eve back in 2010 and then for a bit in 2012. I stopped and now getting the itch to come back to play.

As with the other time I tried to re-energize myself for Eve, I am in the dark of what to do. I have scoured the internet, Youtube, the forums, etc. to get a handle of all of the things that I could do and I am just not sure what direction to take or how to get started. That is probably why I end up only staying for a month or two and then leaving.

My goal has always been to earn enough ISK per month to get things I want, and pay for my playing time with PLEX. I'm not clear if I can do this with between 5-10 hours a week of playing time. If not, then I am fine paying real cheddar to play but first and foremost I would like to have fun (everyone's goal I assume). So here in lies my uncertainty. Mine, Explore, Combat or PvP. Early on I think I was training for combat, but along the way after joining a Corp, I decided to go the route of a salvager. I lost interest after a month and quit playing again. I do like the combat portion of the game but I am not sure how to start my career doing it, and during the training process, how to earn the ISK to progress. I would like to continue to use this pilot if I can and haven't screwed up my skills. I have over 500M ISK and 7.5M skill points (obviously spent).

So I guess I am looking for any helpful information, or well done tutorials for pursuing a career path in Eve. From what I read, mining sounds profitable, but it also sounds a little boring for me. Like I mentioned I do enjoy the PVE combat I have done, is PVP more fun and profitable? I also like the idea of doing exploration.

Any helpful advice would be greatly appreciated.


Your goals aren't really enjoyable turning EvE into a job is the best way to burn out. I recommend subscribing to eve for a year, and focusing on what you want to accomplish long term, then enjoying the game by joining an alliance in nullsec that likes to pvp, something active in your time zone. From here you'll not worry about getting ISK to buy a plex for gametime, you'll be focusing your efforts on learning about the game mechanics. Once you've been in eve awhile you can get another account thats older and enjoy other aspects.

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