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You spelled transition wrong. YOU SPELLED TRANSITION WRONG!!! AWGHFABFFFFFFFFf


Anyways torpoedos already didn't make sense fitting so many in a stealth bomber size wise and now it's going to make less sense.

Lastly my hecate is going to be PVE fit! With a salvager! I may even sacrifice a turret for scanners.

edit: CCP also plans sov updates in a week after tomorrow.

HAM Sac could probably shine tbh which means HAM Legion might be a real thing...although its a bit tougher to fit and less rangey but boy oh boy that tank. Garnish with some Rapiers...my oh my.

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" The Gila, Dominix, Tristan, Vexor, Vexor Navy Issue, and Stratios all make top lists for usage and damage in their respective classes. "

I'd be interested to know where the Amarr drone boats land. Why aren't the Geddon, Pilgrim, Curse, Arbitrator, Crucifier, and Sentinal on the list? WTB Amarr love.

so strange that from "guys we're going to something for missiles users and on top of that we're giving heavy missiles a straight buff"

it ends with logging in and finding out that my 40% Explosion radius bonus turned in to a 37.38% bonus

but no problem if you have cpu to spare and remove a current mid-slot you can get 5,5 something % bonus, oh and that mid slot cant be your target painters or it is useless.

MGCs were available on sisi at the original numbers for at least 2 days. The range bonus was OP at 42% scripted. Do you like 120km RLML Cerbs? The application bonuses were not OP as far as I could tell. But they were effective.

I have a spreadsheet that does the numbers to within 4 significant digits, and is .1% accurate on all stats. I found very little to concern me when it came to large missiles like torpedoes or cruise missiles. The problems were with missiles that are already a bit OP; namely light missiles. Your standard light missile frigate has more range than a Confessor or Svipul in sharpshooter mode even before MGCs are used.

Also, the MGCs have been in EFT for at least a week if not 2. So numbers have been available for anyone that wants to check them.

Actually no. They were not. Rise stated himself the mods were broken on sisi and not applying all stats properly. Then before fixing them to actually apply properly they were nerfed. No player ever saw the actual pre nerfed mods under gameplay conditions.

Also 120km cerbs? To counter 120km ishtars? Yes please. Additionally to DO that.. a cerb really needs to fit a 3 slot tank. That EM hole.. such op.

Additionally EFT warrioring is not gameplay conditions. Sure it can give you plenty of numbers but numbers can always get skewed by user actions. Perfect on the engineering table is not perfect in real life as we so often find out.

Nope. Two stacking rigors isn't a big deal: 73.9% explosion radius versus the old 72.3%. And bombers don't have the CPU or slots to go nuts with the new missile guidance mods. And a 16 CPU TP is better than a 35 CPU MGC II. And bomber torps have plenty of range as is.

The MGC could benefit bomber fleets that have plenty of TPs already and that can fit a CPU intensive MGC in place of a existing TP.



Post fits. If someone else is providing TPs and/or tackle, if you're doing extreme range missile sniping, etc., then the MGC is probably a good choice over a TP. If you currently mount multiple TPs, then the MGC could be a good replacement for the 2nd TP. Aside from that, the MGC and MGE appear a bit underwhelming.

WTF fights at 120k? It isn't happening in lowsec so I can only assume it's a null-sec thing. Maybe you can bubble someone and get some use out of 120k rlmls. In low sec anything outside 20k just means your opponent warps off at will. Hard to be OP when it's useless to have more than 20k range in most pvp encounters. Not everyone is running around with linked garmurs to hold point while they sit off safely at 100+k lobbing missiles and idiotic to call something op and nerf every solo piloted missile boat in eve based on potential fleet application. Well, it should be anyway. CCP have proven they are more than willing to do so. If bombers were a problem fix bombers, if ishtars are a problem fix ishtars. STOP the mindless nuking of entire weapon systems with total disregard for the effect on ships that aren't OP due to their individual bonuses. Not to mention total disregard for the fact that the slot layouts on these ships were never meant to accommodate these extra mid/low slot modules. Why even bother with low slot missile enhancers when half the missile boats have all of 2 slots available and how can you say "trade a tank module" for one of these steaming pieces of crap? Most missile boats are already low on DPS and average to sub par on tank and this is what we get for improvements? Entire thought process is brain dead.

Stated before and I'll state it again. This so called Aegis "package" is a bag of feces.

AND FIX THE G.D. LAUNCHER OR GET RID OF IT!!!!!!
(apologies, I was attempting to update and start client as I was posting that and it took no less that 5 restarts of the launcher to get it to complete without freezing up (with the pre-release launcher installed) and I got a little irritable.)

Was actually going through my ship fits last night to see what ships I might actually use these missile modules on and noticed a funny thing. Pretty much every ship I could actually use one on without totally gimping the DPS or EHP of the fit turned out to be non-caldari. Who of course just happen to be the primary missile users. Maybe that has something to do with slot layout balancing.... Aegis is full of win.