EVE General Discussion

Yeah but as I said, the work is planned around that right?

Or do they let 90% of the staff go away because they want without a downturn in the work to be done?

Yup! Playing ships, WoT, M&B Warbands and Napoleonic, Dirt Rally, Heroes and Generals, ETS2, War Thunder. Cat Goes Fishing (!!!!!) among others. Not playing much EVE, except for the skill sheet. Couldn't care less about Fozziesov though. It doesn't change anything for new players.

EVE posts across the internet are getting that stench of fear these days. Probably for good reason. A 17 month decline is not a seasonal thing.

In thinking about it, EVE players might just love maintenance mode. Nothing would change so nothing would rock the boat. Same game every day. Seriously, because there wouldn't be anything left to ***** about that you couldn't just copy/paste from an earlier post. From what I've seen, the players hate everything new anyways.

Can I have your stuff?

Uhm , yes it does make sense.CCP is not eve ,eve is a game made by the company CCP and as we all know companies that have their backs against the wall only have 2 options left.Either save what can be saved so sell of your products or go down with the ship.

I am not saying that what davet517 said is going to happen but it is a verry possible scenario if **** hits the fan.And since CCP still is milking one cow , eventually that cow will not give enough milk .


Just browse through this list wich has some verry , verry high-profile companies from the past in it.Some of wich no one thaught possible to fall down back then

As Ive gotten older Ive come to realize that all things, both good and bad, eventually end. So its no surprise in the decline in Eve in the past few years. Players have resisted a lot of the big changes by whining about changes to the gameplay they disliked that couldve breathed new life into the game on dramatic or lesser levels in order to farm the game in the style and ways theyd grown accustomed to. CCP is on a new course charted by CCP Seagull now to make a lot of changes to the game and hopefully breath new life into it.

Will it be in time? Will it be enough? These types of questions remain to be seen tbh. But that this period in Eve is more than just a long pause is obvious. And the future is partly in CCPs hands with new content or changes over the coming few years as well as how the players like, handle and adapt to these changes. That its a bit late imo is just that an opinion and only posterity will say if it is right or wrong in that regard.

So I for one will wait and see what unfolds and stick around a bit longer.

This. So much this.

And I love how people put themselves forward as business finance experts or video game market gurus. You know, the people that go all ape**** about CCP restructuring debt, going dark on financials, blah blah blah blah. There's so much confirmation bias too. EvE numbers are down while people wait for Foz Sov in the middle of the summer and next thing you know 10 page treatises on statistics and analytics go up to confirm whatever point of view made you waste those precious few moments of your life on Reddit trying to make yourself look smarter than the average bear. Great work Detectives!!!

Makes me wonder why I ever open any of these threads....

I think I'll go mow my grass.

PS - and i love the crowd like this guy:



Ya your right, no additional gameplay. Except T3 destroyers, a whole new sov system, completety overhauled structures, nerfed Ishtars aka more variety in viable doctrines, drifters......

And the tone... "I'm getting off this boat before it sinks, because if I don't... uh... if I don't... I'll lose everything I don't have invested int he game materially?"

Sigh.

Eve is my favorite game, so I am quite concerned about this as well.

There are a few new games on the Market: Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. Both look pretty interesting. Star Citizen is gonna have a first person view mode, and first person shooter mode.

I think Eve Online has to evolve in order to maintain competitive. A few years ago, I think CCP was doing the right thing when they decided to implement Walk-In-Station, along with some Walk-In-Station games. Perhaps they were ultimately planning to tie it with some kind of first person shooter / third person shooter game. So I think they had a long-term plan to keep the game competitive by evolving the game.

However, the short-sighted players started complaining. Because around that time, there was also a controversial conversation that leaked between internal employees about milking the player base. So that kind of added fuel to the fire, and CCP had to halt the development of Walk-In-Station. But if you think about it, as a business operating for a profit it makes sense to try and maximize income.

I think the players can be too short sighted, and sometimes it's hard to decide whether to listen to the players, or continue with your development plans without listening to the players. Because most of the players only care about how they experience the game right now, without considering 3 years down the road. While CCP has to consider about 3 years down the road, and the new competition that will come out. They probably already know in advance about the new space MMO's that are in development, before most of the players.

Anyways, there are lots of games operating successfully with both subscription + microtransaction model. An example would be WoW, no matter how much you hate that game. If CCP was raking in with the kind of cash like WoW, they can keep the game more competitive too.

So I think Eve would be in a much better state today, if CCP had went ahead with developing Walk-In-Station instead of listening to the short sighted players.

Because developing new content costs a lot of money. If they start on a downward spiral - they have to pull a rabbit out of their hat to reverse the downtrend. Less subscribers also mean less money available to develop new content.

CCP has tried that several times, if you refer a friend, you get 1 free month.

I am not a game developer, but as a customer I am hoping that CCP can pull a rabbit out of their hat, and reverse the downtrend. That's why I keep 3 accounts subscribed, even though I hardly ever login.

I wonder what the "EvE is dead" experts are going to say when log ins spike next week?

Yeah, I think the community supported WiS. Unfortunately, it's timing coincided with the "gold ammo" controversy and both issues became amalgamated. Very unfortunate. I remember seeing a trailer showing a physical player performing a hit on another player within a station. Ah, those were the days when EVE's future was looking so bright!