EVE General Discussion

On the surface being a space pilot should be a no brainer no failure. I love sci fi, I love MMOs. Why the disengage?

I like the training system, that feeling of gaining even when offline, and the need to plan a career path. If you want one.

I guess there's also a simple echo of that with the Planetary colonies, fun but pretty much as simple as tic tac toe.

I like mining, it tends to fit in with my schedule.

I like the odd flying session with my Dominix.

I do like being able to solo. Hate being forced to group. EVE still has that model where zerging gives the best rewards, but that's the same for any game and hard to design away from in an MMO setting.

I put up a little outpost, didn't do much with it and took it down because of incoming Entosis changes.

Hmm. Well looking over that list seems that I miss having anything complex to do.

Guess I expect too much.

Here's a radical idea: start interacting with other players, possibly in a competitive/pvp kind of way. NPCs are boring.

Try to trade in market.. very complex or just try to fly some incursion or go explore in wh.
All this features are veray good vs boring

But you didn't read him. He likes to be able to solo. He hates being forced to group. He acknowledges that that's how MMOs work, but what he doesn't says is that he likes what he can do solo, wihout a group, in EVE.

He is like many of us. He will do his solo thing, maybe will focus on some PvE stuff or industry/trade, and then after two years will look around and ask "what else there is?" and will find he's up of s**t creek without a paddle because nothing he's done serves him to further enjoy the game. He should had joined X the first day, to say so.

Then he will leave and it will be his fault, according to you, and according to CCP. He had a chance to play the sandbox right and obviously he is failing, no matter the good advice and the good intent of that advice. If he chooses to play EVE in a way not supported by CCP, there's little else CCP can do for him... right?

Because sandboxes are all about doing what the developer thinks you should be doing or ~else~.

"EVE still has that model where zerging gives the best rewards"

You can always engineer circumstances to suit solo PVP or ganking.

Can you give me an exhaustive list of stuff that's supposed to be done and old hat in two years?

I did read him. he said he hates being forced to group. I thought perhaps that mentioning that there may be more kinds of group then he ight think might show one that he wants to join. Especially as most of Signal Cartel's work is done alone.

What you experienced is a very small portion of EVE.

Recently i took a new player to eve on a large strat op.

Quick Summary:
We went to attack a hostile POS in a fleet of ishtar (about 60 of us).
Defenders dropped dreads/carriers on us.
Our allies in that system engaged the dreads/carriers with a few of their dreads/carriers.
Enemies responded with more dreads/carriers, things were not looking good.
Imperium dropped multiple titans/supercarriers on the enemy fleet and wiped them.


Total amount of players in system: 300
TIDI: Barely any.
Fun level: Epic.

I can tell you the new guy was O___O for most of the fight and when the big reinforcement came in, he was sold for life to EVE-Online.

^That op is NOTHING compared to some of the big/thrilling fights out there.

Dear OP. You are a statistic, specifically you fit into the category of "Person who sits in highsec leveling his raven for a while and then quits the game."

Sorry.

I haven't done anywhere near that and I think I just passed a 7y birthday. It's still overwhelming how much there is to do that I haven't touched on.

This issue of being a solo player who doesn't want to be bossed about by others isn't such a massive deal once you work out how to get away with doing what you want within a group. Unless some nerd sits on your lap to play the game for you, you'll always be a solo player. Loads of players in larger groups just pay lip service to their corp/alliance then fart about doing what they want, and so they should. You don't have to be in comms, you don't have to be particularly sociable, and you certainly can ignore them 99% of the time (just pretend to be AFK). It's more about learning to balance the demands and expectations of player groups with your own needs - and there's absolutely nothing wrong with joining a group and telling them you are a bit reserved, then ignoring them politely. You just need to find the right group to do it in.

For pure solo stuff where you don't want to be interrupted use an alt corp and keep an alt (or a few) private. Even then I'd say you should be keeping an eye on forums and ingame channels related to your interests, but you dictate the level of interraction you want. Large scale ISK making is typically done best as a solo venture, but you'll get massive rewards even just by lurking to monitor what your competitors are doing. If you're not seeing the complexity beyond point-and-click ingame you're missing out on a hell of a lot. You sound like someone who would benefit a lot from being active in the MD forums and SCC lounge channel ingame, have a look. If not drop me a mail - I did massive amounts of solo indy early on, and there are plenty who can help you find something interesting to get your teeth into.