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Just came back. My PC no longer handles Eve. Makes me sad..
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Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-07-04 23:26:55 UTC
TY all for the help.

You say I can run it on the highest settings, but then it just stutter when I go thru portals, and it hang up completely in hangar.

I have been explained now the integrated memory in my card is a bit short and that is why it ran smoother with the integrated card when I played before..

If I upgrade my graphic card to one with 2GB I will be able to run everything on full specs with no stutter. Makes sense to me as he showed me with different settings while we warped and went thru gates. It is clearly the gtx memory who is the bottleneck here.

Now I run on memory setting and enabled resource cache. I then could turn on HDR and post processing to low. Other than this it is standard memory settings.

I guess it is ok for now, but I think I will go for the 770 ti. Recommended me here and by my friend.

I can play and it looks good again.

Ty so much.

I guess - solved?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#22 - 2015-07-05 00:29:56 UTC
Oh you have like an EVGA card don't you? Or something like it, eh? Those are stripped down for bargain pricing. Most of the Nvidia 650 cards have 2gb, all bells and whistles, bargain cards have less. Should still run, but not best setting on a 1gb card. Sure, I could see that stuttering on gates. I think there was an option to turn that off... I think, haven't messed with it since they put that into the game. But I believe 650 gtx 2gb is minimum for max settings now, factoring in it not being a bargain card.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-07-05 00:46:30 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Oh you have like an EVGA card don't you? Or something like it, eh? Those are stripped down for bargain pricing. Most of the Nvidia 650 cards have 2gb, all bells and whistles, bargain cards have less. Should still run, but not best setting on a 1gb card. Sure, I could see that stuttering on gates. I think there was an option to turn that off... I think, haven't messed with it since they put that into the game. But I believe 650 gtx 2gb is minimum for max settings now, factoring in it not being a bargain card.


I guess the mystery are solved then.

At least I now play with decent graphics, and I will buy a better card soon..
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#24 - 2015-07-05 00:48:17 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Tyler Nietzsche wrote:
Select 90% UI. You'll get used to it in 1-2 months.

Doesn't everyone use 90% UI anyway?



Is there some sort of advantage to doing this?
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#25 - 2015-07-05 01:58:17 UTC
Martinius Tawate wrote:
Well, to elaborate, my computer was fresh installed today with win 8.1. All drivers updated of course.


Spec wise it should run fine, given that you freshly installed windows I'd say it's 99% certain it's a driver issue like chipset drivers or audio or whatever.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-07-05 02:10:26 UTC
Your PC must be seriously compromised. You need to reformat it or check your drivers ASAP. My PC is a 10 year old Dell XPS 410 that has been upgraded and it runs Eve on low-mid setting fine. It is still a 32 bit system for Gods sakes!

http://www.pcworld.com/product/29019/dell-xps-410.html

The good news is I will be updating my rig by the end of the year.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-07-05 05:45:57 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
indeed, stuttering during session changes, points to low video memory.
if this happens, the videoboard has to load new textures into its memory.

best solution is in fact a videoboard with more memory.
anyhow, i am wondering, this system should handle on client just fine.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#28 - 2015-07-05 06:05:07 UTC
My advise do not pick up nvidia x5x or below
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-07-05 06:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
La Rynx wrote:
indeed, stuttering during session changes, points to low video memory.
if this happens, the videoboard has to load new textures into its memory.

best solution is in fact a videoboard with more memory.
anyhow, i am wondering, this system should handle on client just fine.

I highly doubt it's running out of video memory. Like I said before I run an e7200 with a hd5770 1 GB card at max settings on one client without lag (1920x1080). Now once a fleet of 70 or ships start shooting at each other I start to lag and part of it is due to the hard drive. His graphics card is basically on par with the 5770 so it should provide similar performance. Unless he's trying to run at 4k in which case he is skimping in the wrong area.


What I think is wrong is he isn't running the proper driver for his card. He keeps talking about using integrated graphics which is NOT what the gtx 650 is.


You need to uninstall the intel HD graphics driver and properly install the Nvidia driver. Having both drivers installed can cause massive performance issues as the integrated graphics fights with the graphics card for control. Windows very well could be handing off to the integrated graphics once eve starts.

DO NOT rely on windows update to get you the proper driver for your graphics card. Doing so can cause all kinds of performance issues.


If you're worried about installing the proper driver for the card then just download the NVIdia geforce experience and let it handle the driver install. AFTER you completely uninstall the intel HD graphics driver stuff.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#30 - 2015-07-05 06:23:56 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Tyler Nietzsche wrote:
Select 90% UI. You'll get used to it in 1-2 months.

Doesn't everyone use 90% UI anyway?



Is there some sort of advantage to doing this?

You can cram more stuff in.

Oh god.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#31 - 2015-07-05 06:27:02 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Oh you have like an EVGA card don't you? Or something like it, eh? Those are stripped down for bargain pricing.
Wow, I take offense to that.

Oh god.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-07-05 07:00:46 UTC
Kinete Jenius wrote:
La Rynx wrote:
indeed, stuttering during session changes, points to low video memory.
if this happens, the videoboard has to load new textures into its memory.

best solution is in fact a videoboard with more memory.
anyhow, i am wondering, this system should handle on client just fine.

I highly doubt it's running out of video memory. Like I said before I run an e7200 with a hd5770 1 GB card at max settings on one client without lag (1920x1080). Now once a fleet of 70 or ships start shooting at each other I start to lag and part of it is due to the hard drive. His graphics card is basically on par with the 5770 so it should provide similar performance. Unless he's trying to run at 4k in which case he is skimping in the wrong area.


What I think is wrong is he isn't running the proper driver for his card. He keeps talking about using integrated graphics which is NOT what the gtx 650 is.


You need to uninstall the intel HD graphics driver and properly install the Nvidia driver. Having both drivers installed can cause massive performance issues as the integrated graphics fights with the graphics card for control. Windows very well could be handing off to the integrated graphics once eve starts.

DO NOT rely on windows update to get you the proper driver for your graphics card. Doing so can cause all kinds of performance issues.


If you're worried about installing the proper driver for the card then just download the NVIdia geforce experience and let it handle the driver install. AFTER you completely uninstall the intel HD graphics driver stuff.


I concur.
The system itself should suffice. This onboard video solution should in no way work better than the 650.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-07-05 07:16:31 UTC
Kinete Jenius wrote:
La Rynx wrote:
indeed, stuttering during session changes, points to low video memory.
if this happens, the videoboard has to load new textures into its memory.

best solution is in fact a videoboard with more memory.
anyhow, i am wondering, this system should handle on client just fine.

I highly doubt it's running out of video memory. Like I said before I run an e7200 with a hd5770 1 GB card at max settings on one client without lag (1920x1080). Now once a fleet of 70 or ships start shooting at each other I start to lag and part of it is due to the hard drive. His graphics card is basically on par with the 5770 so it should provide similar performance. Unless he's trying to run at 4k in which case he is skimping in the wrong area.


What I think is wrong is he isn't running the proper driver for his card. He keeps talking about using integrated graphics which is NOT what the gtx 650 is.


You need to uninstall the intel HD graphics driver and properly install the Nvidia driver. Having both drivers installed can cause massive performance issues as the integrated graphics fights with the graphics card for control. Windows very well could be handing off to the integrated graphics once eve starts.

DO NOT rely on windows update to get you the proper driver for your graphics card. Doing so can cause all kinds of performance issues.


If you're worried about installing the proper driver for the card then just download the NVIdia geforce experience and let it handle the driver install. AFTER you completely uninstall the intel HD graphics driver stuff.



Your pc is using the integrated card instead the gtx 650. Go there http://www.geforce.co.uk/geforce-experience/download and then follow the instructions.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2015-07-05 07:24:58 UTC
Should also check bios to make sure it's not set to use the integrated graphics. Should be set to use the pcie graphics.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#35 - 2015-07-05 07:25:46 UTC
You need to go to Nvidia control panel > Manage 3D settings > Program settings > Eve.exe

The second option allows you to select your GPU.

Oh god.
Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-07-05 10:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Martinius Tawate
Oh, well..

Gigabyte GeForce GTX650 1GB OC PCI-E Full name of card.

ALSO:
1: I do not speak about using integrated card. I said I am NOT using it. (For a living I used to be programmer, then webdesigner - now tired of it so work with anything but computer..:)
2: On memory settings, with addition of some tweaks upgrading graphics, I now run smooth. As previously stated.
3: Me and my friend ran tests and it was indeed the memory on graphic card(stated in previous post)

Problem is as I told you guys solved. I cannot run highest settings, but pretty close to it with no issues.

I do have to say - this board is probably the most helpfull gaming board I ever visited. You guys are AWESOME :)

EDIT: I alays used geforce experience. And my integrated graphic is not in conflict with the geforce as the driver is not there. It is not in use..
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#37 - 2015-07-05 13:56:32 UTC
I still think your problem lies in the drivers - either graphics or chipsets or sound drivers, considering your fresh install. It is in no way related to your video cards memory, you don't need 2GB card to run EVE. My 560 Ti has just one GB and I can still run modern games with it, like the Tomb Raider reboot on almost full settings (I think only hair simulation is off and shadows at medium).

If you think it's the memory, then they are broken and you indeed need a new card, but I would suggest thoroughly removing current drivers and reinstalling all of them in a clean install. And it could be that Windows has downloaded a driver for your GPU among all the other updates coming, and you could have missed it - Windows Update tries to push me Nvidia drivers every once in a while for some reason but I untick and hide these updates. Meaning you could have two drivers conflicting eachother, leading to the problems you have mentioned.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#38 - 2015-07-05 14:05:38 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
I still think your problem lies in the drivers

I don't think it's a driver issue, I think it was just the HDR and Resource Cache toggles.

Oh god.
Anna Dufour
Acramann
#39 - 2015-07-05 16:26:40 UTC
I have one system that runs eve at 3840 x 1200 with max settings on a 1GB gtx 650. No problems

It dies when I start a second client though.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#40 - 2015-07-05 16:41:52 UTC
Update your drivers. I have a similar rig and Eve runs fine.
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