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[Survey] Drifter Engagement Details
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-07-05 10:56:37 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:


I am not sure yet if I will have to fight Drifters, I require more facts and certainly more intelligence on their war making capabilities and motivations. It is a fool who starts a war without even knowing the location or strength of his opponent. Rush off to the sound of battle to aid those who one day might enslave you as well if you choose, but when you've bit off more than the entire cluster can chew I hope you will then be satisfied.


My thoughts exactly. I don't yet know whether the Drifters threaten all or simply the Amarr. So far I have crossed paths with up to four Drifters battleships at once and squadrons of seekers. Not once have they caused me any harm and I would find it difficult to answer a call to war on such a basis. Until I know why the Drifters behave as they do, or they begin killing defenseless citizens I will hold my fire.

I have to wonder how many of the tens of thousands of casualties from the last battle were slaves. How many of those lost had no choice in their presence in that battle? How many of them even had access to escape pods?

If the Drifters fight against all and sunder then I will answer in kind. If it turned out they fought to overthrow slavery I would have to consider giving them a hand.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#42 - 2015-07-05 11:29:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Antolliere
Matar Ronin wrote:

Apply your own words and insert the plight of enslaved Matari people and where do you stand? You watch the slavery cultists vile treatment of Matari people and still you take no "action", in fact you just drone on with self serving conferences which seek to make slavery legal through out New Eden.


I was wondering how long it would take you to chime in with your unwanted drivel, seeking once again to turn another thread into your own personal platform for your self-righteous judgment of everyone around you.

I'll not entertain you because I don't have to. My character and integrity speaks for itself to those that have any knowledge of me at all, including many Minmatar whom I have personally assisted in whatever ways I have been able.

As to why I didn't mention the Minmatar? I shouldn't have to they're the allies of the Federation, they've never backed down from a fight and they're already involved in the conflict, why would they suddently not be present when it escalates? Their assistance is implied because I credit them enough to not have to verbalize what should be understood already.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2015-07-05 14:52:23 UTC

Matar Ronin wrote:
Apply your own words and insert the plight of enslaved Matari people and where do you stand? You watch the slavery cultists vile treatment of Matari people and still you take no "action", in fact you just drone on with self serving conferences which seek to make slavery legal through out New Eden.


Mr. Ronin,

As a counselor's exercise, we laid to rest our own biases to consider your position. We can appreciate the moral purity of abolition as an absolute end to slavery. If your aim was to mitigate this viewpoint with reality, what would be your method?

Would name-calling be a reasonable mode of conversation? If we as Amarr can say 'Matari', does it not seem unreasonable on your part to continue using 'slaver cultists' as your only way to referring to us? How can you, with such deep cultural bias, pretend to be working towards a goal to remove bias and bondage and exploitation? Wouldn't you first need to shed your own hatefulness? All you talk about is shooting people. Is war the right vehicle for liberation of your people? Nearly half the population of Amarr are slaves. Likely everyone but a Capsuleer in an Amarr ship are slaves. By shooting at these, you.. Matar Ronin.. are the instrument of death for innocent Matari. Is that what you are intending?

We extend our hand to you. We can speak candidly, and without judgment and listen to your grievances. It would be your choice to slap our hand away.




\J/

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