EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

I, like many others, want to see these ships exploding in future AT touraments, so I would like them to be very good and viable, but not too oppressively strong.

The Imp: To me, it doesn't feel Sansha enough. It feels like a buffed Sucubus with some standard interceptor bonusss slapped on, like half-Sansha. Here are some ideas to make it a little cooler and more Sansha:

- The MWD bonus seems out of place for a Sansha ship, and if anyone is going to build an AB interceptor, it's Sansha. Maybe you could go with a slightly higher AB bonus instead, in the 25-30% range. I wouldn't want to push this too far, or it's ability to mitigate damage could get oppressive, even for the alliance tournament, as it already has a high base speed and no sig bloom.
- Maybe improve the tracking bonus to 10-12.5% per level and add a 5% optimal range bonus per level to compensate for the higher speeds. 7.5% feels good, but rather common.

The Fiend: I, for one, am excited about the cruiser being a HIC, if only because it's different. However, even at the best of times, HICs are pretty bland. They bubble or point, and then try not to die. I think throwing that idea on its head would be kind of fun, and would give us a better chance of watching these explode next year.

- Sansha uses afterburners and lasers. A good counter to this is get under their guns with an MWD and hit them with blasters. What if the Fiend was an experimental ship specificly designed to counter the MWD/blaster combo? Bubbles and focused disruption prevent the use of MWD/MJDs, at the cost of 60% reduced range of these modules. This would put the bubble right at T2 scram/web range with no ability to heat for range, and the focused disruption just a hair less than Mordu scram with a T2 scram, again, with no ability to heat for range.
- Reduce the mass/prop mod penalty to 45%, rather than removing it entirely, in order to balance the ship a bit.

Well there are my two cents. Have fun working on these ships, and thanks for putting up with the loud, obnoxious Eve community. You guys are awesome!

If we made an AT prize ship that was much better for tournament use than the current cream of that crop, we'd probably just have to ban AT ships from all future tournaments. So be careful what you wish for.

That's a pretty funny statement when ships like the cambion and malice exist.

Isn't the point of the AT Ships to offer the game something unique?
Currently they're all over the place with bonuses, and a HIC for a 60-150bn isk ship is just ******** and won't see any use in EVE at all.

I think everyone posting here is looking for you to 'improve' the current AT prize ships so that wherever they end up, we can hope that someone who's rich enough will be inclined to undock and use them. Either in the AT or TQ.

To create something that offers no viable application in either TQ or the AT is just a waste of everyone's time, not least of all the competitors who are fighting to win something, or to get a return on their time/isk investment (which is very substantial for most).

Disallowing t2 and faction drones already effectively did that to me so I'm cool with you leveling the playing field a little more.

Just a heads up m8s, changes to the Fiend and Imp will be released by the end of next week. Watch this space.

I always find it fascinating when people are so enraptured with their own way of playing a specific ship that they disregard entirely how others may use them, and present as glorious statement what is fundamentally only their individual opinion.
"I use Hics only for three things CCP... " would have been more appropriate.

Yeah he forgot ship spinning, the thing 100b+ HIC should really excel at

Is it friday yet guise?

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Glanced through stats uploaded to sisi a bit, they look like old ones, but with MWD bonuses removed from ceptor, and role bonuses (e.g. tackle cap consumption) removed as well