EVE General Discussion

Today I was lurking in the recruitment chat and found a new guy asking around for a noob friendly corp, after some minutes, probably half an hour, he asked if this game hated new players since seemingly no one wanted to recruit him and all the people responding told him went to tell him to "sit it out " and wait a month or two.....even keeping in mind he was trolling is this for real?

Is this the new guy experience we have right now? It is bad enough that new chars start with literally nothing trained, they are given some skill books and even a cerebral booster but lets face it basically they are told, pay up and wait, come back later.

Once upon a time people started out with certain professions learned and a 800k sp head start, what was wrong about that?
Now most corps are not even willing to take in the 50k sp noob.

After it triggered my personal interest I made a char myself, and tried it out and oh boy....this game has the very worst new player experience I have ever seen, actually, you are first presented with great graphics and acceptable mechanics and then you realize, especially after having interaction with seasoned players you are considered worthless for at least 1 month or more....pay up, queue up and shut up.....that is what you are told in a nutshell.

Who would resub based on such an experience?
Even if EvE players are in for the long haul, talking off new people like that can not be beneficial or does Hilmar plan to close the doors in 3-4 years considers new guys neglectable?

It is not even the attitude of todays recruiters, it is how the game sets out for new people!

In my opinion getting rid of learning skills was good, now professions must be brought back and people must be given a 600-800K trained up basic skills head start on top of the granted cerebral booster and stuff.

This will probably make it more easy to create suicide ganking alts but that is a problem that can be dealt with separately .

If the game wants to strive something must be done! The game itself is amazing, the new guys experience is abysmal though!

I wonder what the current conversion rate of trial accounts to paying accounts is.....it can not be good.

Ccp rise has a thread over in features and ideas for where you should repost this.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=432569&find=unread

If they are CAS trial accounts and get to know about all the help that CAS noobs can get from the various CAS help channels (wh, mining, pvp, incursion etc.) then i would think the conversion rate is high.

You dont need to be in a player corp to be able to be successful and learn about Eve.

EDIT: I should add that you dont have to be a CAS noob to take advantage of the help listed above, they will help noobs from other npc starter corps as well.

Well there are corporations that recruit brand new players, but you basically need to either come from reddit or just luck out with someone telling you before you quit, or be psychic

- The corp finder tool cuts off results after only 20 results (why?),
- When the new player tag is selected it doesn't show either BRAVE, karma fleet, dreddit, or pandemic horde (I did get EVE UNI so, I guess that counts for something)
- Also there are corporations and alliance under that tag I know for a FACT will turn 50k sp players away, so basically they are abusing the tag.
- You can't find public recruiting channels because there's no channel index for custom channels to add themselves to
- Recruitment channel is ebolaids and full of spam and scammers with zero moderation, I'd say it's existence actively causes harm rather than helps
- Recruitment forum pushes threads to page 50 after a few days and has no way to sort by tags or interests apart from reading every single post title

Just some total no-brainer things that could be easily improved.

i enjoyed my new player experience soo much i bought loads of plex and subbed my account, talked to people in local because i didnt know about the forums or these recruitment channels, i didnt really have much of an issue finding a corp at 900k sp

So how many countless thousands do you see logged in day in day out? Especially new guys and not 10 years vets?

But hey lets pretend everything is ok and plant our heads in the dirt....
Thousands upon thousands of new people subscribe every day, problem is they do not subscribe to EvE.

If new player experience was great it would make up for the the exodus of bitter vets and others... but I see fanboys refuse to see the issue.

so you're solution to the whole issue is give people 800k sp? dont you just think that this game is not a themepark game and actually requires a bit of thought and concentration which is what alot of people dont want?

Are you a moron? By your very own account, it was easy for you to find a corp at 900k sp, the game used to have professions that actually gave you around 800k sp head start....

Jesus Christ even if the urge to troll is that strong at least do not make a fool out of yourself by contradicting withing minutes the very thing you said.

Oh wait you are Tri, mk V or VI is it? Explains everything! Now please ISD lock this since I have to realize that any discussion in EvE is pointless at least in GD and only serves the trolls.

Why does everyone has such a hard on for newbros?

The new player experience has been terrible garbage for over 12 YEARS. SOMEHOW THE GAME STILL IS ALIVE.


Blow up the newbros. Scam the newbros. Give them a proper EvE experience, if they stay, this is the game for them.