EVE General Discussion

Two pages of posts about 'settling in for the drama' and no drama to be seen.

I can't wait for the days when people from all over the Eve universe want to come and fight hub zero fc's, I like fights where both teams are managing their reps and the fight is close to a stalemate. Fights like these show a high skill level where it could come down to one side making a mistake or simply losing cap.

Please try to see that this is a serious opportunity to make some great content.

Being resilient and being stubborn are close to one another yet one is good and the other is bad ...

Why this again actual?

Do you have already an fleet that is willing to work with you?

Actually the common denominator in all of the drama is you, and your inability to see your own strengths and weaknesses. I didn't see what happened to your experiment in 2009 because that was before my time, but I'm reading the archives of it and golly gosh if it doesn't bear a striking resemblance to the thread about Hub Zero from 2014.

I'm looking forward to another spectacular meltdown.

Ok Orion, i'll contact you in-game

So great to see that you have not yet lost your hope in humanity despite earlier setbacks with Zero Hub, and trusting that people will not fire each others or strangers just because they can...

Hell, why walk normally when you can limb, much more funnier that way!




Subscribed to thread and I´m sure you will keep us all up to date with "events"!
Good Luck, Soldier! Ö7

You're saying you perceive this as communism?

I see this as an example of socialism. A community of blues contribute their time into destabilizing local threats and are successful to the extent where the threats can't operate there and move. The result of this is the blue community securing their earning potential and having a reasonably safe area to earn in. We even plan to have some guys further up the pipe reporting possible threats coming down the pipe, again, the lookouts will be contributing their time to ensure no one loses ships.

Now the above example would not have been possible if no one contributed their time into the pvp ops to secure the area. I hope you can see why contributions are important Shiloh. Even noobs can contribute lots Hub Zero has helped lots of noobs become great pilots.

This venture is actually in your hands too Shiloh, Come down and help us scout, come and sell your wares on the market, make ships for us and we will buy them from you at a great price. We can then use these contributions and make a safe haven for you Shiloh.

Removed an off topic post.

Well he could give me a bil for marketing effort

What I´m saying up there (and below this) is that Aarons` thing might not work because he has not counted in all variables and unforseen happenings, where kicking awoxer with red standing out of alliance is only option for a whole thing to work, and is not willing to create Hub Zero to be controlled or monitored in a proper manner, when there are some "sabotage idiots" shooting friendlies and stranges (causing wars and drawing griefers/spies)...

Sorry from this example about RL poIitics ISD (i hope you read it and see it is not attack against anything, just describing links of uncontrallable, even accidental happenings, but still just "matter of time" events), but, yeah...

Think Aaron here is more like the (new noob right wing populist) foreign affairs minster of Finland, who very recently followed EU regulations of sanctions into a last drop of bureautic letter, by not allowing some Russian politics here to celebration of 1975 Helsinki-process 40 years ago, and soon Russia started to threateing with more sanctions against Fineland as a "hostile country" (while we now have still majority towards neutrality, there is exploding numbers of NATO-supporters now, thing Russia wanted to prevent in Ukraine, but might have caused it in Russians northern border, and NATO supporters will sure be soon majority if things go this way too long), that in turn will make EU as a whole increase sanctions against Russia very hard, as we just followed EU-rules...

What a mess. You should expect something like that.

Idea compacted Aaron: How will you CONTROL chaos that results when nasty people infiltrate this area pretending to be friends, but just attack others there (and strangers in hope they bring retaliation and war there later)?

Without alliance you have just no way to kick out/make "friendly" hostile infiltrators of Hub Zero red-targets for rest of the group, quick enough atleast (to satisfy all, every corp/alliance then there must each separately set these people red too, with delay)...

Sure, alliance can be easily wardecked if one pilot shoots wrong guy..
But i see it happening anyway, allied or not...

EDIT: And not to forget that alliance propably has most best ways of keeping track of blues and reds with fastest updates (before some griefer goes through every system around killing unsuspecting other "neutrals").