EVE General Discussion

WTF you are talking about ? You don't defend regions with indices you defend them with GUNS. Indices only gives you some advantage. You can have the highest Indices in EVE, you gonna still lose the region if nobody appears to defend it...

There are a lot of systems outside of pockets, travel routes and jump bridge systems.
I am whispering into the wind, I know but there is always a little hope that they won't pull the trigger on this.
Obviously.
However, if your travel system has 2 military and 5 strategic that is 2.2x multiplier, with Fozzie SOV that buys you 11 minutes before a station service is down and 22 minutes before a structure is done (and then you have a timer that you must form to defend. There will be so many timers all over the region that it will make NC.'s visit look like a fun little holiday.)
So, you divide into small gangs ... and they hot drop a few of them and take one of the systems anyway ...
... or you make a large fleet and some of their gangs take a few systems anyway.
Lose - lose if they have any aptitude.

IF a fleet is pre-formed they might get there in time to disrupt that the first time but all the attackers need do is cycle down, cloak up and entosis another part of the region, with other members of their fleet.

If you rely on the residents of each pocket to defend themselves, then 50% is the best participation that I have seen. 25% alts, 25% "AFK" people.
It is easy to hot drop those people.

The clear primary target is to keep popping the infrastructure hubs; without them, after awhile, you have no indexes and no long timers.
It probably won't be long before large corps and small alliances are selling iHub popping services to soften an enemy up for a large alliance to then farm for "lulz"

NB: This is not reds taking space to live there. This is reds denying space for "lulz".

Welcome to Whack-a-cloaky-mole SOV.

so. its timers online then?

one timer for attack one for defend?

Maybe provi just does not have the required amount of player required to hold a region and a few constellation in the next one?

I'm not bored with Low Sec at all. Don't bring us Low Sec dwellers into this argument. :D

how would it be working as intended?
This is (yet again) dumbing down EvE, a small group can fit one of these Magic Sov Wands to an interceptor and can completely screw over and cause havoc to an entire region.
If they wanted to shake Sov up, here's an idea:-
To gain space or lose space depends on if you live, use and defend it.
Only way to take Sov is to drive out, and keep out, the current owners then you have to actually USE it (mine, build, rat, PvP etc).
Having huge stretches of empty systems is the problem, I see it all the time, systems with one or two people in them constantly. Whoever owns the sov on those systems, should OWN those systems because they dont USE the systems.
This would allow corp, alliances and coalitions to have the volume of space that they can actually use.

Fozzie has obviously been reading to much Harry Potter, and thinking waving a wand (entosis link) should change who the station belongs to. How does that make ANY logical sense? Whoever apporved that idea should be given their P45, same with jump fatigue.
Then theres the entire idea of what basically equates to FW plexing in the constellation, another genius idea, if we wanted to do FW stuff, we'd go to low and do FW.

I'll just quote your words because i could not say it better myself. That SOV holders will have to fight even smaller groups to hold SOV is a HUGE step in the proper direction.

So, you're telling me that your 100+ alliance cannot defend itself from 1 or 2 people?

Then, you NEVER deserved SOV in the first place.

Seems perfectly fine to me.

If the hypothetical 100 character Alliance can't hold those 20 systems, then they will lose some and they'll need to make decisions about what to really defend and what to let go.

No one is entitled to hold sov. Fight for it, or don't. That's a mix of capability and choice.

I think there’s a misconception about how this new system going to work so I think everyone needs to adjust the way they look at Null.
First any change to sovereignty is going to be better than what we got at this time.

Then the idea that any faction can only hold as many systems as it can actively defend at a given time is wrong. Null space is not open in all directions it is a chain on interlinked systems with dead ends and loops. You don’t need to hold it all just the key choke and access points deny access to the rest of null.

Any new faction that slips in behind you and sets up you can wait until the weekend and crush them at your leisure then just leave the area again. Making regular access to difficult and not allowing anyone the time to fortify their position is the key to holding areas. That is something that the big factions can do with ease. They just drop a few capitals and nail down there new staging system before they can have proper support in place and they win. There be happy as it gives then stuff to do while avoiding wars with any of the other big factions.

The Sovereignty hubs are not that important. Industry hubs only give you defence mods and cost isk to upgrade and maintain, not worth it in nearly empty system you never visit. BUT without station access for a new force to stage from it’s a waste of time to attack. Taking Sovereignty in the new system is going to be a 2 hour slog then a 2 day wait and then up to 4 hours to accomplish that’s just too long a time to get anything done with limited numbers.
To take sov in one try you going to need about 20 active players in two or more time zones to be able to accomplish anything provided there not actively contested.

A better way would be if a Corp or alliance move into a station and use the system they acquire sov over time. Anyone could come in and take Sovereignty off them but they would see their control diminish over several days/weeks if they don’t return and reset it. Systems that never get any use would automatically revolt and become neutral or default back to the most active player corporation in the system. But it all boils down to being able to get into a station.