Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi-slot defense mod.

Basic idea is that this would be a counter to cloaked ships from being able to sneak up on you and catch you off guard (active player)

The Cluster mine would dispense small mines that react to ships (even cloaked) not in your fleet or have neutral and lower standing.
It could ether A) be an active mod that launches more mines as it cycles - it deploys the mines up to 5km from your ship or B) be a player active single cycle mod that would deploy a number of mines that have a short life -10 to 20 minutes-
Possibly limited to BS as they tend to be slower less agile hulking beast.

Pros - adds a level of possible defense/early warning to active players
Pros - adds a small ISK/mineral sink due to cost of mines

Cons - makes it a little harder for gankers against active players.


Edit - for those who can't image

If balanced right - it would deploy little mines - things that would react to ships (cloaked or not) that are not in your fleet/corp/alliance/blue to you. They would last at max 20 minutes (would probably settle for like 5 minutes) The Launchers reload/cycle would be nearly the same as the items in space.

This is no form or type a counter vs AFK cloakie campers - - - This is for active defense for players who might be ratting or doing missions or mining or WTF they are do to help them not get ganked raped by that one guy in a SB with his 99 BLOP buddies waiting to jazz all over their keyboard when they get to kill someone.

***This is not to prevent hot-drops.
***Only a means to give (if the player is active) a fighting chance to make the hot-drop a major fell.
***The mines do very little damage - mostly just their to break cloaks.

i.e. Player A is enjoy a good day of ratting when a unknown neut shows up. Player A sees him and local does a quick D-Scan and doesn't see anything. He cycles his Cluster Mines - while he aligns/continues killing those poor rats. The cluster mines flash as they come in contact with the soon to be PITA.

(an alternative option would be that the deployed mines scatter out from the players ship and continue in their projected path for say 25-50km!)

Yes. There is a thread for AFK cloaking. When looking at that, thread I didn't feel my idea fit in - due to it requiring active play.

We use to have mines, they were removed due to the amount of lag they generated when you have 100 people dropping 10 mines a person.

Looks like he wants the equivalent of a defender smartbomb but that doesn't hit friendlies.

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sorry i was attempting to give OP a bit of credit seems he seemed to grasp his idea was terrible and i figured he might have a new interesting notion

Posting in a stealth nerf cloaks thread.

That said, other than being abusable in some kinds of camps and a great anti-tackle/ drone system if done even slightly wrong, OP looks reasonablish.

Self-replicating-cloaky-mines muahahahahaha..

Only around wormholes though.

Perhaps "mines" was the wrong term

I was envisioning something more like chaaf (can't spell)
In real life we normally use it to mess up missiles and other things from being able to get a lock on planes or whatever.
Most Sci-fi movies and TV use it for those times you have things that go about cloaked up and it is how the "good guys" know where the bad guy is.

My example was pretty bad - at 5k Mac range it would force a cloaked ship back into view at 7.5km. And there are good points to the "why were you not already safe?, topic.

We all know that in its current state -cloaks are probably the most OP mod in the game. Yeah you could use a Smart bomb to give yourself some breathing room. But even that fails - if this "tinfoil sprayer" worked it would ether decloak and/or make lock time terrible for the both players.
The whole thought still resides in finding some kind of point defense system to help active players have just one more option then - warp and hide - when a big bad wolf comes to blow them up. And yes putting anything in space in grid will cause more server load - so steps would have to be made to counter that - plus they could just be in active around the players ship until they are "charged" via disrupting a cloak. And thus, a smarter hot dropper would realize this and avoid decloaking due to the chaaf.

I think that might clear up so of the concern.

You make a great point about gate camps.
I also didn't want to make it OP so hot droppers couldn't catch their pray.
I was just thinking that if I had something like this > I could use it and instead of the guy being 2.5km away I would have maybe a little more reaction time. Specially if it messed up his targeting time.