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Need advice on this Algos scramkite fit
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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-06-30 16:05:02 UTC
I came up with the following fit for low sec / FW PVP. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?


[Algos, scramkite]

Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
1MN Afterburner II

150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I


Hobgoblin II x5
Federation Navy Iron Charge S x400


At level V...
EHP = 8.56k
DPS = 301 overheated

Tactics: Basically scram and kite anything within 10km, and orbit at 7km outside of neut range. With the two Overdrives, I should be faster than most destroyers and frigates and dictate range.

If a fast ship or kiter escapes my scram, load Federation Navy Iron Charge S, which has an optimal range of 28.8km (and 36km falloff). My DPS would be 212 overheated. I may not win the fight, but if I can continue to hurt the kiter, I can hopefully make them run away.

Thoughts? My main concern is that my guns may track too slow for frigates, although if we're both webbing each other, it should be okay? I can swap my railguns for 125mm.
Titus Heldane
The Vomit Comets
#2 - 2015-06-30 17:34:51 UTC
i prefer 10mn fits for scramkiting. heres what i use in FW:

[Algos, hulltank]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Hobgoblin II x3
Hammerhead II x2
Warrior II x5
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x1000

very cheap at 9 mil. has lots of speed, tank, and dps. this is a lot faster than your ship and deals more damage.
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-06-30 17:37:46 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I came up with the following fit for low sec / FW PVP. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?


[Algos, scramkite]

Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
1MN Afterburner II

150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I


Hobgoblin II x5
Federation Navy Iron Charge S x400


At level V...
EHP = 8.56k
DPS = 301 overheated

Tactics: Basically scram and kite anything within 10km, and orbit at 7km outside of neut range. With the two Overdrives, I should be faster than most destroyers and frigates and dictate range.

If a fast ship or kiter escapes my scram, load Federation Navy Iron Charge S, which has an optimal range of 28.8km (and 36km falloff). My DPS would be 212 overheated. I may not win the fight, but if I can continue to hurt the kiter, I can hopefully make them run away.

Thoughts? My main concern is that my guns may track too slow for frigates, although if we're both webbing each other, it should be okay? I can swap my railguns for 125mm.



how exactly do you plan on scramkiting in a thing that goes 842 m/s with all V, and an align time of 5.6 secs

drop thos overdrives for DDAs or armor tank and forget about scramkiting
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-06-30 18:02:53 UTC
Titus Heldane wrote:
i prefer 10mn fits for scramkiting. heres what i use in FW:

[Algos, hulltank]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Hobgoblin II x3
Hammerhead II x2
Warrior II x5
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x1000

very cheap at 9 mil. has lots of speed, tank, and dps. this is a lot faster than your ship and deals more damage.


That's even better. Thanks. :)
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-06-30 18:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaivar Lancer
Doctor Knuckles wrote:



how exactly do you plan on scramkiting in a thing that goes 842 m/s with all V, and an align time of 5.6 secs

drop thos overdrives for DDAs or armor tank and forget about scramkiting


Well I love flying my Algos and I'm trying to widen my engagement profile. Scramkiters seem able to take on the most fits. While the Algos is kinda slow, I've seen kiters burn out their ABs trying to escape my web. As long as the speed difference between me and my target isn't too large, I think it's doable. If they explode or their AB burns out before escaping my web, I win. Anyway your advice is appreciated.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#6 - 2015-07-01 04:00:58 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Titus Heldane wrote:
i prefer 10mn fits for scramkiting. heres what i use in FW:

[Algos, hulltank]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Hobgoblin II x3
Hammerhead II x2
Warrior II x5
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x1000

very cheap at 9 mil. has lots of speed, tank, and dps. this is a lot faster than your ship and deals more damage.


That's even better. Thanks. :)


Confirming this fit is good. You can also run a long point over the scram which is nice for straight line burning while frigates trail behind you trying to land enough webs to slow you down.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#7 - 2015-07-01 11:50:14 UTC
Titus Heldane wrote:
i prefer 10mn fits for scramkiting. heres what i use in FW:
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10mn also means transversal control against fairly anything.