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New region idea

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Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#1 - 2015-06-30 15:46:38 UTC
I was thinking about high sec pvp and have some I know in merc corps and some that want to pvp but not want to lose sec status or fight the blob. They want small roams or solo pvp. So I was thinking of a new region where can pvp, no sec status loss, but can't take sov. No caps, sub cap only region. Few stations here and there, but not a lot. No ore belts, no moon minerals, nothing of value in there so big alliances don't claim it. Sole purpose of the region would be to fight in.

I know some wouldn't care, they want something to fight for, but still would be plenty that would go there just for the sake of pvp. Just an idea on how to get more pvp in the game.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2015-06-30 15:58:35 UTC
Thera!

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Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#3 - 2015-06-30 16:00:18 UTC
it already exists it is called NPC 0.0

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]

Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#4 - 2015-06-30 16:04:55 UTC
And there you have moon mining that the big boys on the block fight over, ore belts to mine in, missions to run, stuff to draw others there and fight over.
Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
#5 - 2015-06-30 16:15:06 UTC
Thera - wormhole space in general. Put up a POS or wait for the Châteaux
Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#6 - 2015-06-30 16:50:34 UTC
Wh's are not a region, you have to scan them down, get some penalties, still valuable resources to fight over. Want people want is a region where only thing of value is Killmails and just gates to take.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2015-06-30 16:59:54 UTC
So, basically any space in EVE if you are a PVP-only alliance and just buy in Jita? How well PVP-only alliances turn out, however, is well documented in the fail cascade history of EVE.

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Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#8 - 2015-06-30 19:27:36 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
And there you have moon mining that the big boys on the block fight over, ore belts to mine in, missions to run, stuff to draw others there and fight over.


so let me get this clear, you want a piece of space where you can fight. but without people to fight over other things Shocked and without any belts because you fear a mining laser Question and no missioner for whatever reason. you want content without content so nobody but a few want to be there. maybe EVE is not the best game for you Straight because that request is ridiculous and wil not happen

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Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#9 - 2015-06-30 19:40:24 UTC
Well I can say I am not alone on this idea, but nothing to draw the attention of bigger alliances and claim it. You would be surprised on how many would love some space just for the sake of PVPing nothing else there but PVP. And something that can help promote more pvp, more destroyed ships would also help the market out. I bet if you did a poll, would be a lot that would like this idea and to get more feedback then the few that patrol these boards.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#10 - 2015-06-30 21:02:06 UTC
I haz zee solution for - a brand new server with all systems of EVE. Hmm... name... hmm... *think-cap-on*

Let's just call it Singularity Big smile *genius*

/thread noaw?

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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-06-30 21:17:51 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
I was thinking about high sec pvp and have some I know in merc corps and some that want to pvp but not want to lose sec status or fight the blob. They want small roams or solo pvp. So I was thinking of a new region where can pvp, no sec status loss, but can't take sov. No caps, sub cap only region. Few stations here and there, but not a lot. No ore belts, no moon minerals, nothing of value in there so big alliances don't claim it. Sole purpose of the region would be to fight in.

I know some wouldn't care, they want something to fight for, but still would be plenty that would go there just for the sake of pvp. Just an idea on how to get more pvp in the game.


Checks killboard.

You apparently never leave high sec, but are complaining about not being able to PvP? Try LS / 0.0 / WHs. Don't talk about introducing new regions when what you're asking for already exists, and you simply haven't checked them out.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-06-30 21:33:48 UTC
What you described is the entirety of Amarr lowsec. It is an abandoned wasteland.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-06-30 22:07:38 UTC
Pantheon ?

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2015-06-30 22:30:35 UTC
So, other than the guys camping the entry gates, who would actually go there?

There's nothing to fight over.

If you want a fight, take your mates to BNI space, or up to Deklein. Or to Thera, Providence, FW space, or if you're feeling really brave, go poke some of the Russians down south.
Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#15 - 2015-06-30 22:53:16 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Sarrgon wrote:
I was thinking about high sec pvp and have some I know in merc corps and some that want to pvp but not want to lose sec status or fight the blob. They want small roams or solo pvp. So I was thinking of a new region where can pvp, no sec status loss, but can't take sov. No caps, sub cap only region. Few stations here and there, but not a lot. No ore belts, no moon minerals, nothing of value in there so big alliances don't claim it. Sole purpose of the region would be to fight in.

I know some wouldn't care, they want something to fight for, but still would be plenty that would go there just for the sake of pvp. Just an idea on how to get more pvp in the game.


Checks killboard.

You apparently never leave high sec, but are complaining about not being able to PvP? Try LS / 0.0 / WHs. Don't talk about introducing new regions when what you're asking for already exists, and you simply haven't checked them out.



I came back recently after 3 years off, now just building up a war chest.
Sarrgon
Avalonians United
#16 - 2015-06-30 22:56:15 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
So, other than the guys camping the entry gates, who would actually go there?

There's nothing to fight over.

If you want a fight, take your mates to BNI space, or up to Deklein. Or to Thera, Providence, FW space, or if you're feeling really brave, go poke some of the Russians down south.



Nothing to fight over is the point, then big alliances won't come to claim it. And how many gate camps get abandoned cause a larger force comes by, to many have to log etc. I plan on joining a low / null roam corp soonish, one that operates up north Big smile But something like this IMO would help generate more PVP, more destruction which always helps the market.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2015-06-30 23:07:11 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
So, other than the guys camping the entry gates, who would actually go there?

There's nothing to fight over.

If you want a fight, take your mates to BNI space, or up to Deklein. Or to Thera, Providence, FW space, or if you're feeling really brave, go poke some of the Russians down south.



Nothing to fight over is the point, then big alliances won't come to claim it. And how many gate camps get abandoned cause a larger force comes by, to many have to log etc. I plan on joining a low / null roam corp soonish, one that operates up north Big smile But something like this IMO would help generate more PVP, more destruction which always helps the market.



How can 'there is literally no reason to come here, nobody will be here and there is nothing to fight over' a reason for a region to exist when we already have Syndicate?

Big alliances can't claim NPC null, as Fountain Core, MoA and their ilk prove every day. Nor can we claim wormholes or lowsec.

Who is going to bring a large force in to a region when there is nothing there for them to do?

Do you actually have any PVP experience, or any experience living in a place that isn't highsec?

And how do you figure a region with nothing to fight over generates more fights than, say, an inhabited region with active home defence gangs going after people looking for ratters to murder?
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-06-30 23:20:26 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:

I came back recently after 3 years off, now just building up a war chest.


What does that have to do with what I said?

Also, why are you suggesting changes if you are just back to the game and don't know what has happened for three years?
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#19 - 2015-07-01 00:19:14 UTC
So far me thinks all of you are missing the most critical point.
Sarrgon wrote:
So I was thinking of a new region where can pvp, no sec status loss,


Not much for PvP so I will not comment on sec status loss in nul or WH but I know you lose it when you shoot people in low, my son does that all the time and he is proud of his -10.

If you ask me he basically wants to shoot people without any of the negative affects the game applies for doing that and for that reason alone I give this a huge -1.
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#20 - 2015-07-01 00:29:52 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
Wh's are not a region, you have to scan them down, get some penalties, still valuable resources to fight over. Want people want is a region where only thing of value is Killmails and just gates to take.


Do you seriously believe that PvPers want that? Really? If the region does not include resources of any sort, it means there will be no miners/haulers/manufacturers/PvEers/explorers, thus reducing the potential population to "AAAW F*** IT'S EMPTY!" because there will be no market, thus no places for PVPers to stop by, thus introducing no PvP.

Go job, your idea is absolutely useless. Maybe think it through next time?

French half-noob.

Non, je ne suis pas gentil.

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