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Solo Carrier: Level 5's vs. Anoms in a C3/C4

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Lexisa Antunal
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-06-25 20:47:26 UTC
(Posting with an alt for obvious reasons.)

I have a main that runs Level 5 Missions from time to time. Usually when I'm feeling ballsy, because I'm risking a few billion isk worth of Nidhoggur to do it. I fly only the quickest 'go here, bash this' missions, because the low-sec I'm in isn't always empty. It usually takes me half an hour of watching the system activity before I'll even think about undocking. Then it's out, smash and grab, dock. I've got WCS's and multiple redundant fits in the hold, even a Triage if for some reason I feel like dying slower. I don't like paying for a cyno account, but I have one from time to time available if I need it. Level 5's generate absurd amounts of LP, but LP items can move pretty slowly sometimes.

Recently I scanned down a C3/low static that was pretty quiet. One dead stick, one Large dickstar. Explored/ratted there in a Stratios for a week before I got tired of hauling a full hold 20+ jumps through the ass end of Khanid space to get anywhere close to a market. I let the hole go and went back home. But it got me thinking: there were a lot of anoms in there. A Nidhoggur can fit into a C3 hole from the mass tables I've read. A carrier should have the opportunity to melt Sleeper faceplates too.

Has anyone tried setting up a solo POS from which to stage a carrier for C3/C4 operations? Is it profitable?

Some assumptions I've made that I'd like to hear opinions on:

  • A C3/C4 with low-sec static should get less traffic and be less prone to say, other capitals entering willy-nilly due to mass limitations.
  • A carrier would be good at destroying C3/C4 anoms solo in relative safety.
  • The isk made from running such sites (+some PI on the side on another alt) would be enough to justify the cost of a Medium-Large dickstar.
  • By volume I can keep a Niddy in a regular SMA.
  • Nothing about an SMA immediately screams "there's a carrier in here please RF me."
  • There are no bubbles in Anoikis.
  • If I maintain situational awareness (d-scan spam etc.) there is a half-ass chance I won't get immediately cloak-dropped by a torpedo delivery service and/or T3 gang.
  • Having a dickstar in a C3 is an okay deterrent vs. random gangs, but will only delay a coordinated force looking to evict me.
  • This plan is dumb and I am likely to fail/lose everything I own/not make enough money to justify it.

Should anyone ever do this?

(Answering questions not yet asked:
"Why don't you just join a C5/C6 corp and run escalations?" A: Between the wife, the job, and other hobbies, I'm a pretty bad corp candidate, so I've spent most of my career solo. My play times are so erratic that it seems unfair to whatever corp I'd join.)
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-06-25 21:08:50 UTC
You can't fit capital ships through c3 or c4 wormholes.

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Egg McMuff
#3 - 2015-06-25 21:09:06 UTC
what he said ^^
Aladar Dangerface
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-06-25 21:10:33 UTC
Can't fit a cap through holes lower than c5 holes so that kinda throws a spanner in the works

I don't need twitter. I'm already following you.

Lexisa Antunal
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-06-25 21:13:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexisa Antunal
Crap spackle. I thought I read the mass tables correctly.

Oh well, thank you all for the education. This is what comes of never having lived in anything higher than a C2.
Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-06-25 21:35:06 UTC
You can build one in a C3.
You'll never get it out though.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-06-25 22:00:00 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
Take your idea and do it in a C5. It will work just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl8UXSNhDWM

You know, there ARE bubbles in Anoikis. Like, all kinds are allowed, just like in null.

Also, dscan is probably not enough safety. Learn how to roll wormholes that connect to you, and watch for new sigs.

All that aside, assume that you will lose your carrier eventually regardless because logoff traps are hard to dodge, and killing caps is fun.

Good luck, and Enjoy!

Edit: If you prefer the C3>Losec thing, you can use a rattlesnake. They're still good DPS, and MUCH cheaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

Zekora Rally
U2EZ
#8 - 2015-06-26 16:33:58 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Take your idea and do it in a C5. It will work just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl8UXSNhDWM

You know, there ARE bubbles in Anoikis. Like, all kinds are allowed, just like in null.

Also, dscan is probably not enough safety. Learn how to roll wormholes that connect to you, and watch for new sigs.

All that aside, assume that you will lose your carrier eventually regardless because logoff traps are hard to dodge, and killing caps is fun.

Good luck, and Enjoy!

Edit: If you prefer the C3>Losec thing, you can use a rattlesnake. They're still good DPS, and MUCH cheaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

Actually, CCP ninjad an aggro change for drones a little while back, after that video was done. The result is that none of your fighters will survive a whole combat site. Sentries become the only option and that reduces your dps significantly.

C4s still remain soloable with very little effort but the reward isn't as good compared to C5s but it's definitely lucrative if you combine static and home site running.
Tiberius Mastarelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-06-30 16:51:03 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Take your idea and do it in a C5. It will work just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl8UXSNhDWM

You know, there ARE bubbles in Anoikis. Like, all kinds are allowed, just like in null.

Also, dscan is probably not enough safety. Learn how to roll wormholes that connect to you, and watch for new sigs.

All that aside, assume that you will lose your carrier eventually regardless because logoff traps are hard to dodge, and killing caps is fun.

Good luck, and Enjoy!

Edit: If you prefer the C3>Losec thing, you can use a rattlesnake. They're still good DPS, and MUCH cheaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok



I agree with this. I wouldn't risk a carrier to do sites that can easily be done by a rattlesnake or t3. The fits don't even have to be expensive, and you're most likely going to get jumped eventually so how quickly you make the isk to cover the cost of your ship should be a large part of the equation.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-06-30 17:46:26 UTC
Tiberius Mastarelle wrote:
I agree with this. I wouldn't risk a carrier to do sites that can easily be done by a rattlesnake or t3. The fits don't even have to be expensive, and you're most likely going to get jumped eventually so how quickly you make the isk to cover the cost of your ship should be a large part of the equation.


Well, the capital escalation adds 90m to the value of the site, which is a quarter or more of the value of a C5/6 site (depending).

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

Tiberius Mastarelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-06-30 18:02:35 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Tiberius Mastarelle wrote:
I agree with this. I wouldn't risk a carrier to do sites that can easily be done by a rattlesnake or t3. The fits don't even have to be expensive, and you're most likely going to get jumped eventually so how quickly you make the isk to cover the cost of your ship should be a large part of the equation.


Well, the capital escalation adds 90m to the value of the site, which is a quarter or more of the value of a C5/6 site (depending).


I was referring to the original idea of doing c3/c4 sites in a carrier.