Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please don't say mini games, it'll attract the trolls. It's simply a new mechanic :)

I do support the comet mining idea too, it would certainly be a step in the right direction. Personally I think this would be more awesome though (unsurprisingly perhaps).
In theory you can have both even.. just have to do some balancing obviously.

and then ofcourse there is the classcial "who the hell do you think you are telling me how i can eve?"

I mean i know people who love mining SPECIFICALLY because it requires no real imput, and like looking at pretty spaceships and the awesome skybox...

I might not get them myself but if you make it so you can push buttons to mine better you're directly and immediatly nerfing their playstyle... "because you like to watch spaceships do nothing after work you're not good enough to eve, you need to be wholly and fully invested"

AKA -1 FOR LIFE

-1 because even with your mode enabled mining still comes down to hours sitting in space watching your pretty lazors chewing up rocks and your idea does nothing to change that.

-1 because pointing and clicking or pressing keys to move a pointer on screen while you sit motionless in space is such entertaining and engaging game play(major does of sarcasm inserted here)

-1 it wil not affect AFK mining in the slightest as they will just keep on doing what they do so why bother. Those who are active in the game when mining already have ways of making more ISK per hour than those who AFK mine so how does this change that situation any?

-1 because you cannot even be bothered to fully work out both sides of your idea. While you layout some pretty serious consequences for the use of this proposed mode you have given us nothing on the benefits that its use would give the miner.

What? I said it'll give a significant boost to your mining. In case you're unfamiliar with mining that means you'd give more ore. How much exactly is a matter of balance and is for instance what I would expect people like you to constructively give input to, on this forum for developing ideas.

If you have any constructive criticism that is entirely welcome, but I can't use rants like that.

Personally I actually don't think you should be able to do anything in a game while afk. On the other hand it should be so that the activities in the game don't feel like chores. They should be sufficiently fun and entertaining in of themselves that'd you'd want to do them, not just for earning ISK.
But that's just my philosophical opinion. It would still be possible to afk-mine though, there'd just be a slightly more rewarding alternative as well.

The reason I think it might move more miners to lowsec is that you find more valuable minerals out there, but obviously you can't afk-mine there. So now that more miners stop being afk, that's one less obstacle for heading into lowsec or nullsec.
They would also be conditioned a bit more to take risks, as that's a big part of the new mechanic.

You may be right that there's simply too much in high sec to be mined as well. I wouldn't mind seeing resources redistributed as part of an update.

I quote my original post
"If balanced right the influx of ore to the market would remain roughly the same, as the amount of multi-character afk miners will decline in turn."

my point was: if "safe" regions can be harvested for Ore more AFK, then these ores loose in price, which is an incentive for people to go to dangerous places. As always: poverty leads to progression.
If that is already the case, it still has to be stronger and therefor the distribution needs fixing.
Also, afk-mining isnt bad. Its the "SEMI"-afk thats lacking.
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On the other hand, althoug i like mini-games, an activity that provides no further interaction/content with the communitiy/players, is not worth the devtime. Lets hope that doesnt apply....

Technically almost everything you do in EVE is just clicking the left and right mouse buttons, not sure that's a super great argument in itself ;)

A good portion, I'd say, especially out in nullsec.

Alright, well it is definitely a very real concern so it's good that you bring it up.

In order to really know the effect it would be great to have some figures that would show the distribution of miner "types", but I imagine that's probably not easy to make.
In any case if we believe a big amount of the ore pumped into the market comes from these multi-account moguls, that portion of the ore influx would likely remain the same and not really benefit from the Turbo buffs.

Small scale multi-boxers may find that they can earn comparable amounts on just playing one active character, so they might decide to do that instead. The net amount generated would remain fairly much the same though.

So the only place you'd really see a noticeable net increase in ore generation would be those who were already single-character mining, who may turn out to be a fairly insignificant contributor to the total ore market.

With that said the ore prices would most likely drop a bit yes, but not necessarily as much as you'd think at first glance. It is primarily the multi-box mega moguls who don't draw any benefit of the buffs at all who would feel it, and they would probably be able to cope with it.

Still it's really difficult to say anything for certain without having access to actual numbers.