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That's a big negative. One or the other, either its nullified or covops cloaked, both would make it uncatchable. There has to be a drawback to any ship choice, and you have fitting options... you do realize you don't have to fit cargo expanders right? With clever fitting you can get out of at least 50% of situations where you get bubbled, my hauler is probably sitting at closer to 75%. Even doing everything right, they will get you sometimes, working as intended and nomadbro.

-1 from me, and wrong forum.

I'm sad to see this thread still going.

There are countless such Hauler Iwin threads on F&I, albeit of lesser degree. Interdiction immunity on a covops hauler with 14k m3? Gobbi pls

Pro-tip: Fit an AB on any DST and align in 8 seconds sharp without any Inertials.

I can make an Impel go 1.7 km/s w/ MWD when fit for Nullsecks. A BR can do 3 km/s - what more do you want on top of the covert ops cloak?

Don't try to gauge everything against the broken JFs with zero station cynos.

Silly thread.



And what is that going to balance? Cloak activation is milliseconds, and even if it had 25 seconds align times, you just fit an AB and cycle it once after cloaking.

People want the Victorieux Yacht w/ 14k m3 cargohold with enough sweet, sweet lowslots to fit WCS as an insurance against insta-lockers.

Hi first ever post but I been playing nearly 2 years now so here’s my thoughts.

DST should get Bubble Immunity whether heard wired or a fitted module I don’t care. (How about a module that can also fit Exhumers)
Cov-ops probably not

I read a lot about how they are two strong as it is but I discovered that if you try to do anything that requires regular runs along a fixed route then there always someone who will see it and kill you time and time again. You don’t have to be stupid or lazy to lose if the other guy comes with 4 friends and fully fitted for the job.

Let’s face it most eve players are in small 1-10 player corps if not in there NPC corp. and why is this. Because they don’t play 30 hours a week just a few hours here and there. It takes a lot of time and commitment to join a larger corp. and help run it. I know it what I spend most of my time doing. But what’s this got to do with DST and bubbles. Well most of null is empty just because a lot of players just can’t be bothered to mess around with large alliances and all the other **** that it involves. They mine do some manufacturing and run sites and missions.

They just don’t go to null because it’s just too hard to live out there. Getting there is not to hard but then what. Can’t buy ships or fittings at any friendly stations to shop at that aren’t camped with Alpha fitted gangs. Moving your stuff out there or stuff back is imposable without a J-freighter and there not an affordable option. Get a scout. I played for over 19 months before I got a second account and I only run the two. I just find controlling two at the same time I am about 70% effective with each. For a lone player it’s just not worth it and most of the players in eve are lone players. They may do some faction warfare but it’s on their own time and at their own pace. Null isn’t that dangerous it’s just too much hard work for a lone player to do. Guess what guys EVE is a game! If something you enjoy doing in Hi sec is just too much trouble to do in null or Low then why bother going to there. If DST allows more access to null and help more players live there then it’s worth it. A DST will probity move no more than 60,000m\3 or 1/10th a jump freighter per trip (skill Lv 4) so it’s going to boost hi –null trade and get it out of the monopoly of the big factions.

Everyone against it is already out there and in large gangs hunting down ships that haven’t got a chance in hell of surviving more than 10 seconds under fire from you. You like the way things are because it’s you just padding your kill boards and it’s how you like the game. You say learn, change and adapt but if this change comes along you are the ones who have to learn change and adapt and you just don’t want to. Here is a hint Smart bombing battleship on the gate. There you got your counter to bubble immunity HAPPY NOW!!!!!

How are lone players going to remove a gate camp by themselves? Gate camps interdict large areas of null and largely don’t bother the large factions who use J-freighters and Bubbles are just left there unattended so jumping into one you never know if its abandoned or there is a cloak ship ready to pop you.
Those who say it will make stopping them imposable and should not be allowed need to know that we got that in Hi-sec. It’s called GANKING! Undock, warp to safe spot, warp to target, Kill target, Disconnect, Re-connect back to your pod in a safe spot, Warp to station insta-dock. Dock in safe station. And yes it’s is imposable to stop, players use the system to their advantage to avoid being podded.

If your are lone player or small corp. who just doesn’t want to be involved in endless wars then there no stepping stone to Null. Giving bubble immunity will not allow lots of new players into null buy itself but should help with more free access to that section of space. More players more content for everyone.

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The deep space transport has more viability for being interdiction nullified.

But then it shouldn't be able to fit a cloaking device of any kind.

It can tank, micro jump drive (people forget this), has great transport...

I'd be ok if it lost the ability to cloak warp but gained bubble immunity.

I wouldn't be ok if it had both the abilities

Killing its cloaking option kills it's lowsec use.

And before someone says "it should have a high slot immunity module), 99% of all the ships in Eve would use it, including supers and Titans, drakes, domis, destroyers, t3's (they would use that over its own subsystem), etc. so no on this also.

Neither ship needs this.

Maybe you could... you know.... plan ahead. You keep talking about logistics, but part of logistics is having an adequate inventory so that you don't need stuff, "right now!!!!" and can bring it in on the regularly scheduled supply runs, or on a contract that may take a day or two.

It sounds like you:
1. Can't or won't plan ahead for your own needs.
2. Refuse to use easily available solutions such as scouting.
3. Are too lazy to make a series of bookmarks to allow you to fly around the common bubble locations on your route.
4. Are not very good at BRing... because even if you refuse numbers 1-3, you should still be able to fly through 99% of gate camps while hanging out the window and flipping the bird to the campers as you warp out untouched.

Sure, one way to make NS more active is to make it less dangerous.

You really haven't explained why blockade runners need to be nullified other than you want to get stuff for your malediction so you can be shot at in that...also a ship that is nullified.

Wait.... where did u read that?

I have exactly 0 interceptors, check my kill / loss board and if u find 1 interceptor flown from my side i give you a BILLION.

And yes, interceptors are damn boring ship's. All these scout character fly these ones in null sec and make sure that their BR pilot won't get blown up. With that being said u have to have 2 character to transport your goods safely. That's exactly the group that lives in null sec... multiboxer's and big alliances.

I don't like the native cargo scan immunity bonus. But i would love to see cargo scan immunity modules. They should come with interesting drawbacks, perhaps to align time or resists.

A BR fit for speed can travel 30 km in one MWD cycle. Think how one good player could catch one.

It is doable, but many variables.