Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Note: I couldn't find a thread that wasn't locked to post this in. If ISD decides to lock this thread for redundancy, I would appreciate being provided with a link to the appropriate thread for this idea.

I was listening to the Neocom podcast Tinfoil Factory episode on Attributes and got to wondering why attributes couldn't be removed altogether and replaced by personal indices, similar to sov system indices. A character's indices' levels would be influenced by specific activities in-game; the indices' levels would affect the speed at which related skills trained. Station spinning over a long period of time would cause indices and therefore related skills' training speed to drop, whereas for example engaging in PVP or marketing trade would cause related indices to go up and thus related skills to train faster. It sort of simulates "learning more by doing more".

This idea is totally off the top of my head and might be incredibly stupid and I can think of some reasons others would think so. For example: it would require actually doing stuff in game to maximize training speed (which might be mitigated somewhat by implants of some kind), it would make those training alts on the side unhappy (again, implants could mitigate that), it might be difficult to map skills to a reasonably limited set of indices with clarity, or it might be ridiculously complex to implement well, to name a few.

But at first glance the idea does seem to suggest some interesting possibilities for driving activity in-game and relating that directly to skill training speed.

What do you think, fellow capsuleers?

But i want to train my alts, not play the game?
What about all those people playing EVE : Skill Queue Offline?
They just buy plex off market and skill characters.

I propose that this may be a mechanic added to the current system. Not personal indices alone.

By that, you can still train at current levels but personal indices would give a boost based on activity.

Yes this means alts just sitting in queues won't get the bonus that an active toon has.

And no, someone getting something that you're not getting isn't a penalty to you, but a boost for them. Just like not having an increase in your budget isn't a cut.

For example:

Industry character (A) spends (x) amount of time mining while training mining related skills, that character would receive (x * 1.2) bonus time of accelerated training much like "rested xp".

This promotes activity as well as attribute and skill awareness.

By no means is that the final version, but I believe it's an excellent idea to build from. Saying no for the sake of saying no won't cut it. Come up with alternatives, changes, and other ideas. THAT'S what the Tinfoil Factory is about!

Why would you want to replace a reasonably fair and equitable system with one that was not only gameable but increased the overall amount of grinding players had to do just to stay competitive?

Not supported.

Current system may not be perfect in many peoples eyes, but it is a best compromise and is fair in that everyone can achieve the same SP accrual rates with the same investment.

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I love the reactions to this. Can't wait to spotlight them next episode :)

Grinding belongs in Machine Shops and Nightclubs, not Eve.

Could you please reiterate this reason. Most people where not around at that time.

You expect CODE. not to pass up free afk kills? Ask them.

Anyway, that's not the crux of the current subject.

It was abused, just as afkalt suggested in this thread.

Although this is a bonus, many will feel compelled to use the mechanic and therefore find way to do so AFK. Just as they did in the early days.