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[PRESS] Odo Korachi issues demands; IKAME petitions for assistance

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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#41 - 2015-06-26 11:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Frenjo Borkstar
I myself have now recieved a response to my mail.

It states that I should convince my fellow scientists to do "the right thing" by handing over the body so the DED can "lay him to rest in an honourable manner". In said mail, he didn't even refer to me as "Dr. Borkstar" instead calling me "Mr." yet he talks about honour. I earned my title, and I have the right to request that I be referred to by it.

To be blank, not happening. It is not the right thing to do at all.

My points in said mail stand, as they do here.

EDIT: Link to mail conversation so far is here.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-06-26 11:44:15 UTC
I don't suppose that Hilen Tukoss left a will stating that he left any and all mortal remains to science?

Normally I would agree that his remains should be delivered to his family. However we do not know the nature and source of his unusual brain structure. If it is proprietary to one of the clusters corps then they should say so and all investigation cease. If this is something that Hilen came by in Drifter space whilst away we really need to know everything we can about it.

CONCORD's approach in this matter disturbs me, I have and continue to deliver my service to the Empires in defence against the various pirates that inhabit them. I believe that I and those like me deserve some transparency on this. It's about time CONCORD told us just what exactly is going on with the Jove and the Drifters?
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#43 - 2015-06-26 12:43:44 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
I don't suppose that Hilen Tukoss left a will stating that he left any and all mortal remains to science?

He left a whole bunch of backups, that's the point.
Rhiannon Dellacorte
Liberty Vanguard
#44 - 2015-06-26 12:50:33 UTC
Lord Kailethre wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
Keihaat kotautkko!

C-can I get a translation, please?


"Keihaat" is "hiding"

...Having trouble with the second word.

Rules of Acquisition #261

A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience.

Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-06-26 13:00:04 UTC
Rhiannon Dellacorte wrote:
Lord Kailethre wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
Keihaat kotautkko!

C-can I get a translation, please?


"Keihaat" is "hiding"

...Having trouble with the second word.


Could it be 'cucumber'?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#46 - 2015-06-26 13:12:15 UTC
My advice is to throw the remains into a star and let his memory rot.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#47 - 2015-06-26 13:24:16 UTC
Will Gauss wrote:
CONCORD, through actions like this and the imprisonment of press who did little more than report the news truthfully has delegitimized itself and no longer represents the capsuleer community, and as such, holds no rightful authority over the capsuleer community.

Once created to serve the law, CONCORD today is little more than just another pirate faction using force to enforce its will and should only be regarded as such: shot at and removed from endangering others like any other pirate entities found on one's overview.

They never represented the capsuleers, CONCORD was created by Empires and works with them(more or less).
As long they have power, be it CONCORD, Empires, capsuleer entities, they can do whatever they want this true in majority of cases.

Rhavas wrote:
...For those of you left in the Empires, hold to what dignity remains, and throw off the shackles of these sad, corrupt, and devoid of purpose self-appointed rulers that think themselves above your own leaders...

I'm confused are you describing capsuleer entities.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Will Gauss
TerminalDogma
Lucky Starbase Syndicate
#48 - 2015-06-26 14:21:30 UTC
Through Odo Korachi, CONCORD has been served with legal papers regarding the unlawful and unprecedented threat to seize material property from Capsuleers.

Order to Show Cause
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#49 - 2015-06-26 14:21:58 UTC
Concord represents capsuleers in the same way that the Caracal represents small fluffy, flightless, raptor chicks. I am amazed that anybody has failed to see this.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Rhavas
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#50 - 2015-06-26 14:26:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhavas
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Rhavas wrote:
...For those of you left in the Empires, hold to what dignity remains, and throw off the shackles of these sad, corrupt, and devoid of purpose self-appointed rulers that think themselves above your own leaders...

I'm confused are you describing capsuleer entities.


You are confused because you removed the rest of the paragraph.

Rhavas wrote:
Make your voices heard. And if that is not sufficient, join those who have left their confines for wormholes and the empires of the outer regions.

The Gallente should vote for leaders who believe in their way, which this dictatorial approach is not. The Tribes should decide if, having thrown off the Empire and at last looking to our roots for the right governance, they will bend the knee to those who have shown both incompetence and prejudice in this very matter against Eifyr. The Holders should look at the that the Drifters bring to their holdings and the inaction of CONCORD and petition the Empress to demand and exercise her sovereignty. And the Caldari should be most insulted of all - many of these capsuleers are a subsidiary of Ishukone, and Mens Reppola should be demanding independence to say nothing of the Caldari view that Tukoss was a traitor.

As for capsuleers, vote with your warp drives as I suggest.

Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary

Rhavas
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#51 - 2015-06-26 14:40:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhavas
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Concord represents capsuleers in the same way that the Caracal represents small fluffy, flightless, raptor chicks. I am amazed that anybody has failed to see this.

CONCORD does not, and never has, represented capsuleers in any way. They are the Jove-appointed referees of conflict between the empires. That said they have long shown aspirations of meta empire and belief that capsuleers should obey them. And now they are making their first stumbles toward dictatorial authority. Will you be sheep and give them that power?

The Jove are gone and it is time to revoke CONCORD's charter.

Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary

Will Gauss
TerminalDogma
Lucky Starbase Syndicate
#52 - 2015-06-26 15:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Will Gauss
I have arrived at the Inner Circle Tribunal. Neither Odo Korachi nor any other CONCORD official or counsel has as of yet appeared to represent CONCORD's interests in the Order to Show Cause proceedings.
Slutty Underwear
Ephesians trading and farming
Memento Moriendo
#53 - 2015-06-26 16:22:47 UTC
I think it would be unwise and counter productive to not comply with Odo Korachi instructions.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#54 - 2015-06-26 16:55:25 UTC
Will Gauss wrote:
I have arrived at the Inner Circle Tribunal. Neither Odo Korachi nor any other CONCORD official or counsel has as of yet appeared to represent CONCORD's interests in the Order to Show Cause proceedings.


Yeah, this is going to happen because DED, CONCORD, etc have no need to respond to your 'summons'. You have no lawful power over them.


Of course, the mistake they are making is that they think they hold lawful power over the capsuleers and good luck with THAT, as they already burned that bridge by allowing capsuleers to be semi-sovreign entities in the first place.
Kerena Alabel
Temple Of Inanna
#55 - 2015-06-26 17:42:36 UTC
concord needs to pull their heads out of their asses
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#56 - 2015-06-26 17:56:28 UTC
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#57 - 2015-06-26 18:44:41 UTC
You may petition the DED and CONCORD. However their answer will be the same. Failing to comply to their demands is a breach of interstellar law. Odo Korachi's demands are well within their operational limits afforded to them by CONCORD.

Those who call themselves Caldari Loyalists should push for the lawful transfer of Hilen Tukoss's remains: "The advice of the Chief Executive Panel and the Caldari Business Tribunal is, after a discussion this morning, to encourage all those involved to comply with interstellar law, and bring this ridiculous situation to a close in line with the law."

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Arimeth
Doomheim
#58 - 2015-06-26 18:45:09 UTC
Rhavas wrote:
The Jove are gone and it is time to revoke CONCORD's charter.


And invite chaos and destruction? The last time that CONCORD were taken out of play, the Empire was invaded en masse and the State went in to reclaim Home. Now imagine how it all would have ended if CONCORD didnt eventually intervene and everyone were left to their own devices? A ruin, bloodied and barren.

But let's entertain the idea that CONCORD is dismantled. What do you put in its place? Who would keep the peace? The nations were quickly at each others throats given opportunity. So that leaves us with... us, the capsuleers, who I believe would be busy eating each other while everything around us burned.

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Arimeth
Doomheim
#59 - 2015-06-26 19:08:22 UTC
While I, to a certain degree, understand IKAME's position and desire for more transparency from CONCORD, I have to back the statement given by CEP and CBT.

Refusing to comply with their demands would be ill-advised.

I hope this situations reaches a quick resolution.

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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#60 - 2015-06-26 19:10:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Xindi Kraid
John Revenent wrote:
You may petition the DED and CONCORD. However their answer will be the same. Failing to comply to their demands is a breach of interstellar law. Odo Korachi's demands are well within their operational limits afforded to them by CONCORD.

Even if the demands are within their mandate, the threats are not, and frankly, given CONCORD's recent continued actions, I don't think handing the samples over would be the right thing to do even if it is the legal thing to do.