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Overheating - A little too OP?

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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#21 - 2015-06-26 11:46:04 UTC
I disagree. Overheating is not overpowered in my opinion. I overheat 24/7 and end up with burned out mods alot more than I'd like. Even nanopasting in warp doesn't "save" me.

Since your killboard is a farce, I'm going with the idea that you're posting on an alt.

Fight more and train "Thermodynamics"
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2015-06-26 11:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
lilol' me wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
everyone can do it with minor skills and its not a perma effect, overheat too much and bye bye module


I know, but my point is the amount of time that you can actually overheat before your module burns out. Its just far too long.

What module are you talking about


Well every module that can overheat

Yes but which ones in particular , they all have different rates of heat accumulation, different hp value,different bonuses to heat and different cycle times, all of which are used as balancing factors so which ones matter.

Also worth mentioning that the fact you don't see why the distinction between one module and another is important in this context sort of hurts your credibility to be making suggestion.

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Svenja Timofeyeva
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-06-26 11:48:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Svenja Timofeyeva
Azda Ja wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:
Svenja Timofeyeva wrote:
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Aha.
Svenja Timofeyeva wrote:


So?

Interesting name choice. P

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ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#24 - 2015-06-26 11:52:47 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
I disagree. Overheating is not overpowered in my opinion. I overheat 24/7 and end up with burned out mods alot more than I'd like. Even nanopasting in warp doesn't "save" me.

Since your killboard is a farce, I'm going with the idea that you're posting on an alt.

Fight more and train "Thermodynamics"




Haha said the F1 monkey.. To be honest i DO agree with OP. Come at me....
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#25 - 2015-06-26 11:55:03 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
Yarda Black wrote:
I disagree. Overheating is not overpowered in my opinion. I overheat 24/7 and end up with burned out mods alot more than I'd like. Even nanopasting in warp doesn't "save" me.

Since your killboard is a farce, I'm going with the idea that you're posting on an alt.

Fight more and train "Thermodynamics"




Haha said the F1 monkey.. To be honest i DO agree with OP. Come at me....


You mean you used another alt to simulate support?
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#26 - 2015-06-26 11:57:17 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
ImYourMom wrote:
Yarda Black wrote:
I disagree. Overheating is not overpowered in my opinion. I overheat 24/7 and end up with burned out mods alot more than I'd like. Even nanopasting in warp doesn't "save" me.

Since your killboard is a farce, I'm going with the idea that you're posting on an alt.

Fight more and train "Thermodynamics"




Haha said the F1 monkey.. To be honest i DO agree with OP. Come at me....


You mean you used another alt to simulate support?


Oh dear, now your completely delusional and in denial that some other people actually don't think the same as you. Go back to pressing F1 and your elite peeevvveeepeeee. Oh wait make sure you bring that cap as well, we wouldn't want to think you could actually fight with anything else.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#27 - 2015-06-26 11:59:06 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
Yarda Black wrote:
ImYourMom wrote:
Yarda Black wrote:
I disagree. Overheating is not overpowered in my opinion. I overheat 24/7 and end up with burned out mods alot more than I'd like. Even nanopasting in warp doesn't "save" me.

Since your killboard is a farce, I'm going with the idea that you're posting on an alt.

Fight more and train "Thermodynamics"




Haha said the F1 monkey.. To be honest i DO agree with OP. Come at me....


You mean you used another alt to simulate support?


Oh dear, now your completely delusional and in denial that some other people actually don't think the same as you. Go back to pressing F1 and your elite peeevvveeepeeee. Oh wait make sure you bring that cap as well, we wouldn't want to think you could actually fight with anything else.


ok. Thanx for clearing up what this is about
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#28 - 2015-06-26 12:04:56 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
worthless gabble.


hey why not post with your main instead of being a little b!tch?

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V1P3RR
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2015-06-26 12:05:54 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
So I been thinking a lot recently, looking at videos etc and overheating seems pretty much the thing everyone does almost immediately when going into a fight.

When overheating was first introduced its was supposed to be like that last minute saviour, or something to get you out of trouble, however the amount of time you can now overheat, especially with skills is far too OP and too long. You can almost overheat especially in smaller ship fights for most of the fight. Surely there is something a little wrong there. Overheating should only be for a short period, shouldn't it? Your guns, or mods should burn out far more quickly than they do, otherwise you might as well just give every mod those extra increase normally.



have you actually used said OP mechanic ? or you just enjoy whining about it from the 3 minutes you`ve spent watching some PvP vids ?
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#30 - 2015-06-26 12:07:59 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
I am dealing with really thick people today?

Maybe if everyone is argueing against you and you still don't see the point you are the thick person here? Blink

ImYourMom wrote:
Oh dear, now your completely delusional and in denial that some other people actually don't think the same as you. Go back to pressing F1 and your elite peeevvveeepeeee. Oh wait make sure you bring that cap as well, we wouldn't want to think you could actually fight with anything else.

Lol you want to bash someone else over their PvP activity while your own killboard is completly empty? Are you really that dumb or just a bad troll?
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#31 - 2015-06-26 12:40:35 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Are you really that dumb or just a bad troll?



Not a pleasant choice is it?
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2015-06-26 12:50:30 UTC
I'm afraid not
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#33 - 2015-06-26 13:08:18 UTC
It's a matter of situational awareness, really. Overheat when you need to, not when you don't, and only for as long as needed. It's simple to say that, but requires tons of practice to get used to. I certainly haven't mastered it yet.

I really don't think we need to be removing one of the more universally interesting skillcap mechanics in the game at this juncture.

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Paranoid Loyd
#34 - 2015-06-26 13:30:14 UTC
You don't understand what OP is and/or are trolling.

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Syrilian
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-06-26 13:41:44 UTC
Actually I think thermodynamics is a great equalizing skill that levels the playing field somewhat for newer players fighting older. I've been in a couple fights against more established players who mismanaged their overheat, burned out their guns and allowed me to win the fight. Conversely, I've also been in fights where an opponent didn't overheat or overheated too late and I won because of it. It's a great skill to train that can close the SP gap.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#36 - 2015-06-26 13:43:14 UTC
Overheating will probably come up in a future balance pass as I don't think it has been looked at for quite a while. Certain modules will burn out very quickly and others will last almost indefinitely; it depends on the module.

In a future balance pass one thing that I would like to see is the meta 4 items being bought down to the level of T2 items in terms of how long they can be overheated for.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#37 - 2015-06-26 13:45:34 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
everyone can do it with minor skills and its not a perma effect, overheat too much and bye bye module


I know, but my point is the amount of time that you can actually overheat before your module burns out. Its just far too long.

What module are you talking about
Civilian shield boosters. You can light them up for nearly 5 minutes. So OP.

Who put the goat in there?
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#38 - 2015-06-26 13:48:34 UTC
I'm not sure how you figure 30 seconds to 90 seconds of overheat is too long. Have you or are you ever involved in fleet or multiple target pvp? Even cruiser and larger pvp for that matter. Every thing isnt balanced specifically for "honorable" 1v1.

Daemun of Khanid
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#39 - 2015-06-26 13:49:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
maybe drugs are too op also?

or implants too op too?

how about links?

Roll

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Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Masaaq
Soggy Biscuit.
#40 - 2015-06-26 14:01:14 UTC
The real evil here is how overpowered forum threads are.

They take almost zero skill and time to create, often make wild claims with little to no supporting evidence and with no thought to those they might affect, yet tend to get overwhelming support from those wishing to board the whine-train.

Thankfully, this time round the original poster is being made to look the fool, and rightly so.

Learn to manage your heat better and HTFU.