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Is Burn Amarr over?
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Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-06-24 20:51:45 UTC
Hi guys!

Got back froma short work-stint, military and all. Couldn't login except to station-spin and check the markets and map.

Is Burn Amarr officially over? I checked the map statistics, 24 ships destroyed in the last hour. These normal figures or higher than average?
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-06-24 21:00:07 UTC
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-06-24 21:06:13 UTC
A couple of Burn Jita's, a Burn Amarr.. where to now? Every day is a low level Burn Hek, and Rens is too far out to be much fun. Burn Dodixie? Or, being French/Gallente - Dodixie Flambe?
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#4 - 2015-06-24 21:19:28 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
A couple of Burn Jita's, a Burn Amarr.. where to now? Every day is a low level Burn Hek, and Rens is too far out to be much fun. Burn Dodixie? Or, being French/Gallente - Dodixie Flambe?

What ?

There's hardly ever a freighter blown up in Hek.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-06-25 07:15:07 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
There's hardly ever a freighter in Hek.

FTFY.

Seriously though, I don't see anything abnormal in Amarr right now. Granted, someone is always being popped in hubs, so...

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Jaclyn Hayes
WTF IS THIS CORP
#6 - 2015-06-25 09:43:25 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
A couple of Burn Jita's, a Burn Amarr.. where to now? Every day is a low level Burn Hek, and Rens is too far out to be much fun. Burn Dodixie? Or, being French/Gallente - Dodixie Flambe?


Dodixie flambe????

Hahahahah...goddamn french.
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#7 - 2015-06-26 03:42:56 UTC
The official event is over, yes. You can read the EN24 article about it if you want a perspective about what is apparently a completely different event as described by the resident of another planet, or you can consider the following:

1. Amarr has half the traffic of Jita.

2. Burn Amarr included only Goons and allies, while Burn Jita include Goons, CODE, and allies.

3. Goons and allies alone killed at least 80% as much ISK as Burn Jita in a system with 50% of the traffic. Add CODE's amazing efforts to clean up the chaff that tried to outflank Burn Amarr, and the damage totals soared above the previous record by hundreds of billions.

4. How clueless did someone have to be to think that "Burn Amarr" meant we'd only be ganking in Amarr itself? Seriously, the opsec leaked like a sieve and it never said that Amarr was the only target.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-06-26 04:49:54 UTC
Okay, I've got a question.

Why aren't events like these more common?

I get the impression that the actors involved were having fun.

I will speculate that the destruction of goods in this sort of scale will definitely help the economy through every stage of the cycle (more to build, more to research for Tech II, if any deadspace got destroyed it made the surviving modules more rare and valuable, etc etc).

This seems like a very good thing that happened, yet it seems like the event itself is rare.

So again, why doesn't this happen more often? Obviously the downsides would outpace the benefits if done too often (cue: too much of a good thing cliche), but unless I'm missing the news this sort of thing only happens like once or twice a year. Why not every couple of months? Maybe even quarterly?

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-06-26 05:09:37 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
Okay, I've got a question.

Why aren't events like these more common?

I will speculate that the destruction of goods in this sort of scale will definitely help the economy through every stage of the cycle (more to build, more to research for Tech II, if any deadspace got destroyed it made the surviving modules more rare and valuable, etc etc).

This seems like a very good thing that happened, yet it seems like the event itself is rare.

So again, why doesn't this happen more often? Obviously the downsides would outpace the benefits if done too often (cue: too much of a good thing cliche), but unless I'm missing the news this sort of thing only happens like once or twice a year. Why not every couple of months? Maybe even quarterly?


More common? Think for a minutes what goonies doing apart from "Burn" events. Exactly! They are back to their indie alts to mine and produce enough ships and mods to drop them on market to keep logistic chains flowing.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Tha Rock
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-06-26 08:10:41 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Khan Wrenth wrote:
Okay, I've got a question.

Why aren't events like these more common?

I will speculate that the destruction of goods in this sort of scale will definitely help the economy through every stage of the cycle (more to build, more to research for Tech II, if any deadspace got destroyed it made the surviving modules more rare and valuable, etc etc).

This seems like a very good thing that happened, yet it seems like the event itself is rare.

So again, why doesn't this happen more often? Obviously the downsides would outpace the benefits if done too often (cue: too much of a good thing cliche), but unless I'm missing the news this sort of thing only happens like once or twice a year. Why not every couple of months? Maybe even quarterly?


More common? Think for a minutes what goonies doing apart from "Burn" events. Exactly! They are back to their indie alts to mine and produce enough ships and mods to drop them on market to keep logistic chains flowing.

I never know Goons mined...... except tears Pirate
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-06-26 08:15:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Tha Rock wrote:


I never know Goons mined...... except tears Pirate


goons like kids peacefull and very kind untill you come and start ruinning their sand castlles...

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#12 - 2015-06-26 08:25:05 UTC
Jaclyn Hayes wrote:
Joia Crenca wrote:
A couple of Burn Jita's, a Burn Amarr.. where to now? Every day is a low level Burn Hek, and Rens is too far out to be much fun. Burn Dodixie? Or, being French/Gallente - Dodixie Flambe?


Dodixie flambe????

Hahahahah...goddamn french.


Oui LMAO.

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#13 - 2015-06-26 09:17:03 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
Okay, I've got a question.

Why aren't events like these more common?

I get the impression that the actors involved were having fun.

I will speculate that the destruction of goods in this sort of scale will definitely help the economy through every stage of the cycle (more to build, more to research for Tech II, if any deadspace got destroyed it made the surviving modules more rare and valuable, etc etc).

This seems like a very good thing that happened, yet it seems like the event itself is rare.

So again, why doesn't this happen more often? Obviously the downsides would outpace the benefits if done too often (cue: too much of a good thing cliche), but unless I'm missing the news this sort of thing only happens like once or twice a year. Why not every couple of months? Maybe even quarterly?


It usually goes unannounced in the mass media, but CODE. aliance and the Ministry of Love of the GSF burn Uedama/Niarja a little avery day. The only difference is the magnitude of the events. There is a relatively small group of individuals who are real fans of what they do and keep the ganking going non-stop, but still can't do something as big as Burn Jita too often, lest they burn out themselves. Freighter ganking looks so easy from outside due to the tremendous organizational work put into it behind the scenes.

Everyone can make a difference in this procass and make people gank freighters more often. Do you have a character collecting dust on one of your accounts? Turn it into a suicide ganker. Do you have good production capabilities? Manufacture those sweet Neutron Blaster Cannons and help keep inflation at bay. Got any spare ISK? Donate it to James 315. We gratefully accept any help, but human resources are our most valued capital and the most critical factor.

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Live by the Code - die by the Code.

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#14 - 2015-06-26 11:24:03 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
Why aren't events like these more common?


Because most of the people who ask that question don't go forth and make events like these happen.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#15 - 2015-06-26 11:44:23 UTC
It finished Monday...

Whoever collected dead bodies, contract them to me please?!??!

...
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#16 - 2015-06-26 11:52:02 UTC
Was in Amarr yesterday, seemed fine.

@lunettelulu7
Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-06-26 12:09:44 UTC
I would suggest all capital haulers to join Gank-intel chat channel in game for latest (usually) updates on activity of known freighter ganking groups around large tradhubs.

Also - for those interested in tactics on avoiding getting ganked, getting some help while bumped (sometimes) or just chatting away random stuff (y'day was a day big on summer and underwear Shocked) join Anti-ganking chat channel.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-06-26 13:42:01 UTC  |  Edited by: d0cTeR9
It was fun, only participated a little bit and got half a dozen freighter kills.

Most freighters were AFK auto-piloting during burn amarr... Blows my mind.

Who ever wrote that eve 24 article got a whole bunch of facts wrong.

Mainly that 'freighters were running around unchallenged and making it out'. Untrue. I recall on comms freighters being called out, scanned and found to be triple-bulkheaded tanked with nothing in them. Meanwhile some idiot in a 4-5 billion isk freighter with triple cargohauld expanders was usually a system nearby (sometimes even AFK auto-piloting...).

We would gank the more valuable freighter while other wings were waiting out on timers.

Calling it a failure when we spent 30 bil to get 350 bil of kills is not only moronic but a poor attempt at news-reporting. The amount of fun can't be measured too (it was a LOT of fun). We even had anti-gankers try to stop us (with epic failure for them).

So take into consideration that Amarr see's half the traffic of Jita and we still racked in 350 bil isk... OP SUCCESS!

P.S: Moose has a crazy cat Lol

Been around since the beginning.
Nevil Oscillator
#19 - 2015-06-26 16:38:41 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Tha Rock wrote:


I never know Goons mined...... except tears Pirate


goons like kids peacefull and very kind untill you come and start ruinning their sand castlles...


They also come from the planet Goon.
Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2015-06-27 04:50:32 UTC
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:
Do you have a character collecting dust on one of your accounts? Turn it into a suicide ganker.


Seriously tempted. I've been considering making a second EvE account and having three ganking alts on it. Or just training up the appropriate skills on this guy, who has seen less and less use lately.

Not ready to dive into quite yet, but it's been something on my mind for the past year.

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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