Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok, then a counter-proposal - on destroying wreck it turns into some salvage you can scoop. Less then you can get using the salvager though. There, mystery and problem solved.

Nope, T3 links because i was lazy, and midgrade snake only.

I don't know much about titans, never claimed to, and as I said - not sure but seriously doubt 100mil ehp. It seems I made a mistake, my bad.

To explain where the mistake came from - I did my EFT-ing with avatar in eft, with avatar as booster (didn't know erebus was better) and did not overheat harders, so ye, it can actually go for a burst tank of over 100mil EHP (2 minutes 20 seconds before hardeners burning out).
BTW, either something's wrong with my EFT or yours since I could not get your 72 mil on levi if I fit a clear pilot (no implants) and no boosters on the exact same fit (I get 65 mil ehp). Either way, it could be argued that EHP is irrelevant for the wreck as its very dependent on the situation (as this disscussion has shown) and once the ship pops only its base HP value should count.

EDIT: All the EFT warrioring aside, I stand by my comments on the wreck changes (-1 atm)

Popping wrecks is already common in nullsec and I don't doubt that with fleetwarp changes anti-support roles will be ordered to always shoot wrecks in range.

At the moment there is nothing at all you can do to stop someone from killing a wreck instantly. Anything can lock and kill it instantly. There is no counterplay.

Can you give any reason balancing wrecks is not a good change for everyone? Your comment was that this buffs people looting wrecks too, wich is a pretty obvious result of these changes. Is there any gameplay or balance reason this is not a good thing?

Your personal feelings towards certain groups are not a reason to stop good changes.

I posted thing about ganking , as this is obvious that this will be also considered as some buff to this activity - every one is aware about this.

When you fly a while in nullsec you will notice how fast people are adapting to new stuff - as here is just adapt , or die.
When we are talking about kiting, long range doctrines - in order to engage enemy you need to be in similar doctrine , or have ability to tackle enemy ships , especially when they starting to die as "reps are not holding".

Basic ship used to tackle large group of enemy ships is a dictor, dictor that cannot probe by himself, so he can warp to other fleet member or for example a wreck in the middle of enemy fleet.

Nullsec FC are not stupid people. Inability to warp fleet will be abused , and clearing the field from potential warpins will be very important task. This will not be something new, countless times i already did this after FC requested this.
You can instantly lock any wreck and kill it using one gun.

Now , the question is.
Do we want this to work this way after next patch.
I don't . After years playing this game i had enough blue balling over the years.

Killing wrecks will be used mostly to prevent bigger engagements not to promote them.
I prefer to die than constantly rewarp on the battlefield - as this is fun.

This will not make higsec ganking harder or easier, scooping stuff by other freighter will give the pilot aggro - any one can tackle it.

You see a broken mechanic connected to fleet hangars , address this issue to CCP.

Wrecks must be harder to kill if we want nice, bloody brawls.





Quite high numbers, but i guess keeping 500ehp on a interceptor was mistake from my side.
Dead frigate can be very important warp point.

Creating more wrecks or initiating warp faster?

Think the focus should rest on warpable spots around the grid due to wrecks (or lore-wise: any lockable mass floating around), not the wrecks or their survival themselves.

If three pings on each and every gate in null is now a prereq to even think about fighting, that'd be dull. If a gate would have *public pings* due to wreckage (from the last fight still) floating, that would enhance gameplay by quite a margin though.

+1 support

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The proper volumes, and it's not as much as you think, of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil will effectively reduce a car into wreckage spread over a good area. Wreckage like this is pretty much useless for salvage.