Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is exactly what not ought to happen. You take a lot of effort out of the game, a lot of time spend in space out of the game just to cater to laziness. Getting your standings sorted from -10 up to -5 to a faction/NPC corp is the max that should be possible for anyone with tags. The rest is hard work in space to earn your reputation, not buy yourself in.

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What hinders you from pursuing various options over your life time? The effort that you need to put in keeping track of your standings towards various factions and compensate declines/improvements of them? If that's too much to ask, then please unsub. The "lifetime" to do a whole lot of things in EVE is long enough to explore all kinds of things without having to excessively compensate for errors as long as you manage all the aspects. Rivr, for instance, can run L4 missions for 3/4 Empires (only Minmatar not because of -2.02 standing). I cannot run missions for pirate factions for obvious reasons as I hunt them. Now, if I wanted to, for whatever reason, all of a sudden start running missions for pirate factions, I would start doing so by slowly and steadily rectifying my crimes against them. It takes time and it should do so as I hunted them for well over 3 years without any mercy.

The tags are used to increase the prices of faction LP store items to make them more expensive than standard items because they offer benefits over the standard items and every benefit in EVE comes with exponentially bigger downsides. What you ask is leveraging this core principle of EVE just to cater to the poor, less intelligent and lazy.

Yes, you can already do that by hiring a person to run missions for you. With your suggestion, you completely trash this economy to replace it with people sitting in stations instead of being in space. The very same principle was moved out of the Security Status because CCP saw a flawed need to cater to the lazy and to make it easier to correct mistakes that one made. The more CCP adds to making error rectification easier, the less their slogan "Where decisions have meaning and consequences" is reduced to absurdity.


You honestly want to see more of this kind of hilarity in more areas of the game? Let me counter this with Albert Einstein:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

Then make your standing gaining sessions fun. Run missions in low sec or wherever with others, form fleets with people. Be the bait for a PVP group that can drop on you or warp to you when you get ambushed. Or use other people to run missions for you if you just need standings to a particular corp. Being lazy has no place in this environment. You either do work for your gains or you do not have any gains. Be creative. What you do is, as said, catering to the lazy and unimaginative. These are the people we need the least in EVE.

Read my post again, I am not saying anything about ruining economy for mission runners. I am talking about a particular kind of mission runners.

You think of something like this: Char A is in Amarr FW for over a year, has killed thousands of Minmatar and Gallente FW personnel. Now, as Amarr FW has become less lucrative due to falling LP prices, they want to switch to Minmatar FW because someone decided that TFI are cool, their prices spike and Minmatar FW LP become more valuable. Char A can then just turn in a couple thousand Tags and be at +3 with Minmatar to be able to join them and run missions. All the past is forgotten for a couple of tags? This is what people ask for? If this is "trivializing the endeavor" for some people, I'm not sorry to flat-out reject anything said in this or similar threads.

I can and will agree with people suggesting making the process of salvaging your standings more fun, more engaging, more varied, less monotonous. Like improving on the COSMOS system, introducing new and better missions or tasks to gain standings with factions. But simply turning in tags to go from -10 to 0, let alone from -10 to +5 or +10, for just a couple hundred million ISK is something I will not concur with, also for the reason that it removes the obligation from CCP to actually think about fun, engaging, varied and meaningful ways to improve this or similar aspects of the game.

yes you are indeed correct in that the idea tabled does trivialize a lot which isn't something I want either so I do actually agree with you here, I +1d this because it's an alternative to the grinding missions and didn't put much more thought into it than that,
a better cosmos system would indeed fit the bill at first glance, hell better standard missions would be fine imo but that's a larger endeavour.

If alll regions of space are available to all players then move these tag turn in locations to high sec ONLY.
Not a very palatable idea for those with -5 or below standings is it?
Likewise it is not a very palatable idea to many in high sec to have to go to low or NPC nul for these tag turn ins.

And no I do not care that the vast majority of the players who buy tags for standings probably live in low or nul anyway, that is not the point. The point is that the current system of tags for standings is available to ALL players and in ALL areas of space including high sec CCP does this to make tags for standings balanced across all play styles. And so any new tags for standings mechanics that are put into the game need to be available to ALL players in ALL areas of space and that includes high sec to balance them in the same way the current system is.