Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm a huge fan of Hybrid weapons actually. And giving it 8 effective turrets gives it the same DPS as a Catalyst, but with 4 med slots and 5 lows. If you consider adding a single Drone on top of that, I don't think the idea is THAT bad.
Also, I didn't suggest to take one turret away because "the DPS was too high", I did it as a compromise (having a lower DPS but easier to apply).

You're supporting my point about speed though.

Faster than the Svipul? Definitely not.

10 effective turrets at all V's. Since ROF bonuses are a reciprocal function, you see increasing returns at each level, so at level 2 DPS is going to be ****.


You have your 125mm optimal off, would actually be 5.6km, your point is still valid though. Outside bonused points you should be able to get ships scram kiting to at least **** off with neutrons and able to do good damage with rails even against bonused points.

I'm still a little skeptical about it being one of, if not the, slowest small size ships without a prop mod.


Apologies, didn't notice you wanted to give it a low in exchange for the turret. Giving it a drone though would put it's DPS above the effective 10 turrets(before mag stabs). A lot of people didn't want drones because "super comet" and for the sake of balance I agree.

All the other T3D have 6 highs, mids & lows add to 8. Dropping a high and giving a low would deviate from this, which seems like a balancing factor for the T3Ds. If you wanted to give the Hecate 9 effective turrets CCP could drop it's role bonus to 35%, meaning it'd have the same number of turrets as the other turreted T3Ds. In exchange for a base speed similar to the turreted T3Ds, I'd be willing to have the same number of effective turrets. Mass and inertia would have to be adjusted for the new speed so the ship doesn't get ridiculous MWD speeds but also keeps the same align speed.

My thoughts, it could do with more speed and agility out of prop mode, it dose badly against any ship bigger than a dessie with a web or nuet or both and that's how it should be. Sig radius could be reduced a bit as it gets no sig reduction bonus and can only use a mwd. It has really bad pg and needs fitting mods for basic fits. It has good agility and good tank and the potential for a lot of dps, can't really be sure until I have the gallante tactical dessie skill to at least 4. I expect most fits to have one or no magstab as dps is good already without it.

Ultimately a nice looking ship (though has very little variation when it switches modes), has the potential for exciting fits, doesn't threaten bigger ships like the svipul, has a wide range of counters. It really could use more speed and pg.

I do like that you get a very cap efficient MWD while in Prop mode.

For some reason, I really really feel like the Hecate needs a single, unbonused light drone. Kinda like the Enyo, Incursus, Taranis and such.
Just to feel like a real Gallente ship.

Would this break it's balance or cause large problems?

Rail Harpies will be fine. I compared a Hecate fit similar to rail harpy fit.

With my skills,

dps, Rail Harpy 176 caldari AM, 102 spike. Hecate 350 caldari AM, 200 spike.
Range, Rail harp; spike 65 opti, 72 falloff. AM 18 opti 25km falloff. Hecate in sharp shooter mode, 62km opti 69 falloff with spike, with antimatter 17 opti 24km falloff. Out of sharpshooter it is 10km opti and 17 falloff with anitmatter and with spike it is 37, 44.
Tank for Harpy is 6.7k ehp with a sig of radius of 39m and speed of 814m/s. The hecate has a tank of 6.2 ehp, 8.2ehp in defense mode, speed with an ab is 561m/s and sig radius is 79m.

With the armor version you'll have more utility less speed, a lot of fitting mods and if you go with a mwd a much bigger sig and less dps than the shield version. Harpies will be fine.

I have gallante tactical destroyer IV, assult frig IV, sharp shooter IV.

GW plz :)

So, little bit of math on this tells me

5*1.5 (role bonus) / .75( ROF bonus) = 10

10 turrets x 53.4 (max skills polarized light neutron with void) = 534 DPS before modules.

2 faction magstabs and a t2 burst rig get us to 915 DPS. In a small gang fight with some frigate logi and a good warpin, the reasonable max of 1052 DPS (2 mag stabs, burst rig and heat) of this little monster will quickly shred most targets. You can even do this with dual MSEs for a reasonable chance of survival.

It's coming July 7th in our Aegis release.

Got in it. First impressions..

It's pretty. The modes are VERY subtle. They need a little more... Flair.

It's very difficult to see its mode changes.

With propulsion mode, there needs to be a extra two engines that pop out so you know it's going faster.

Sharpshooters ok,

Defensive mode needs an extra plate showing up or something.

It's. Subtle. It's good but.. Subtle.