Player Features and Ideas Discussion

+1

someone's mad their lewd got #AMT'd

also no.

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Imagine it also doesn't act like a can or can be salvaged in one go

you actually have to salvage it a bit by bit and the EHP and mass gets smaller,

while you're doing it your randomly extracting the modules and cargo as well as part of the salvage bit by bit, cycle by cycle

No for the "randomly extract the loot", as gankers need to be mobile to stay alive (in a non-HighSec context), and looting would require the skill salvaging, which should not be forced onto player. Or salvaging 1 given to all new player and retroactively to all non-new players. (Random loot would mostly be annoying because the loot fairy would most likely feed you all those worthless cap charges anyway...)

Why not for the "salvage during multiple cycles", would be more logical lore-wise, especially with capital wrecks.

Well, we're speaking about making sure a wreck stay on grid longer, am i right? Then speaking about multi-cycle salvaging count in. Because 1 cycling a titan wreck will make it pop, even if 1B EHP.

Augmenting wrecks EHP will bring back the old dessies salvaging fits. So, making sure you can't one cycle salvage is relevant.

EDIT: Salvager Dessie:

• Instalock wrecks&cans;
• If following the anchor, is most of the time in range of everything;
• tractor & pop all T1 wrecks in 1 to 2 cycles, pop T2 wrecks in 3 to 4. (Since it has 4 salvagers, unless you're really unlucky, it will only be the duration of 1 cycle.)
• Also include salvage drones for out of range wrecks (salvage drones go 1.5km/sec), and warriors to pop cans (including spare for both set).

[Algos, Big Bad Salvager of Doom]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
[Empty Med slot]

Salvager II
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II

Small Salvage Tackle II
Small Salvage Tackle II
Small Salvage Tackle II


Salvage Drone I x5
Salvage Drone I x1
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1

I think it is quite easy to boost EHP of a wreck , and creating new mechanic around it is totally different thing.
We need wrecks for warpins after fleet warp changes.

Ideas about creating wrecks creating more content are good, but if we ask CCP to give us to much , we will never get it.

Could anyone remind me how long does wreck exist in space? Two hours? Do we need to consider a buff for this part as well?

Which is exactly why we proposed wreck to need potentially more than one salvager cycle to clear.

I killed my last freighter long time ago, if you care to check my killboard you will see i go for smaller stuff.
In my first post i stated that this will also change way how the higsec ganking works , but it will change much more in fleet engagements.

Guess what happens if a guy warp into the middle of enemy fleet, or in the optimal range of guns.
He will die fast, but he leave wreck that could still provide a warpin.

Nonsense. Thanks to risk free looting by laundering the loot using fleet hangars on DST's and Orcas, the only thing that's going suspect is a noobship or a shuttle. You'll only see a suspect freighter in the rare case that single very valuable items are bigger than 50k m³ (size of a DST fleet hangar).