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Tripwire Question...........

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Esturary
Busted Blonde
#1 - 2015-06-22 13:10:26 UTC
Just found out about this tool and have been playing around with it. My only question is.............

Does it reset the WH chains you have scanned down when the server has a downtime? When I was testing Tripwire I scanned sown a chain. Logged off and came back maybe 36 hrs later and the whole chain I scanned down was gone from Tripwire.

No complaints but just want to make sure Im not doing something wrong or thats just the mechanics of it.

Orange Aideron
Voidlings
V0IDLINGS
#2 - 2015-06-22 13:31:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Orange Aideron
Esturary wrote:
Just found out about this tool and have been playing around with it. My only question is.............

Does it reset the WH chains you have scanned down when the server has a downtime? When I was testing Tripwire I scanned sown a chain. Logged off and came back maybe 36 hrs later and the whole chain I scanned down was gone from Tripwire.

No complaints but just want to make sure Im not doing something wrong or thats just the mechanics of it.



Wh's die after 24hrs, if you put in the wh "type" into tripwire, TP automatically counts down and removes the wh connection, and thus your chain. That chain wouldn't exist even if it was still on your mapper after 36 hrs.
Esturary
Busted Blonde
#3 - 2015-06-22 13:56:32 UTC
That's what I thought but I was just checking. I guess Tripwire would really be useful for large corps then who are constantly tripping and mapping......

Thanks for the reply.
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#4 - 2015-06-22 15:21:50 UTC
that tool, or a tool like it, is essential for anybody in wh space regardless of size. the other methods are insane to keep track of.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#5 - 2015-06-24 13:41:45 UTC
Just keep in mind that a few corps use it to let you auto map systems for them. There is a cabal of large wh groups that share all the mapping info from this and a few other mapping tools.

You're basicallly paying for the privelege of mapping routes to your front and back door for others to come gank you.

There will be any number of folks claiming this isn't true and posting a few technical reasons as to how it's not possible. If you believe them, then you probably believe the governement puts fluoride in drinking water to protect your teeth. (think about it - 100s of millions of dollars dumped into water supplies so you have better teeth?? - does that even make sense??)
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#6 - 2015-06-24 13:48:48 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
[...]You're basicallly paying for the privelege of mapping routes to your front and back door for others to come gank you.

There will be any number of folks claiming this isn't true and posting a few technical reasons as to how it's not possible.


They totally don't do it for the ISK donations/payments they've gotten used to receive, but to get easy acces to your 3 plat insured pve-boats...
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#7 - 2015-06-24 14:34:12 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=320030&find=unread

Also, don't blame your garbage scouts/picketing on "exploited" mapping tools lol.
Tol Vir
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#8 - 2015-06-24 14:52:28 UTC
Esturary wrote:
That's what I thought but I was just checking. I guess Tripwire would really be useful for large corps then who are constantly tripping and mapping......

Thanks for the reply.


Usually chains don't stay alive where a hole expires that way, Normally it dies and we realize then update TW accordingly.

But yes as has been pointed out if you were to add a sig as soon as it spawns and tell tripwire what type of sig it would disappear after the appropriate time
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#9 - 2015-06-24 17:13:42 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
[...]You're basicallly paying for the privelege of mapping routes to your front and back door for others to come gank you.

There will be any number of folks claiming this isn't true and posting a few technical reasons as to how it's not possible.


They totally don't do it for the ISK donations/payments they've gotten used to receive, but to get easy acces to your 3 plat insured pve-boats...



I think the last time I insured a ship was 2007. And as far as the serious of my post - there wasn't really any serious to it. Any time a sig mapping thread is up on top the eventuality is that a tin hatter claims exploitation. I just thought I would chuck the rotten potato in the mix early. (It's a slow day at work).

The only way to hax my mapping tool is to steal the #2 pencil personally handed to me by Jack Milton (it's a signed #2 with verified Jack Milton teeth marks in the little metal band - not for sale)
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-06-28 22:53:35 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Just keep in mind that a few corps use it to let you auto map systems for them. There is a cabal of large wh groups that share all the mapping info from this and a few other mapping tools.

You're basicallly paying for the privelege of mapping routes to your front and back door for others to come gank you.

There will be any number of folks claiming this isn't true and posting a few technical reasons as to how it's not possible. If you believe them, then you probably believe the governement puts fluoride in drinking water to protect your teeth. (think about it - 100s of millions of dollars dumped into water supplies so you have better teeth?? - does that even make sense??)


I love a good conspiracy theory. tell me more about the Tripwire one please Smile

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-07-07 18:04:23 UTC
I used to use tripwire till I decided to tryout Siggy. Tripwire had too many issues, mainly being that it wasnt reliable to update when we'd jump into wormholes. Sometimes it would update, sometimes not. I haven't had any issues with Siggy and have stuck with it since.

I hope Tripwire gets all its issues resolved though.
Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-07-07 20:39:44 UTC
Altirius Saldiaro wrote:
I used to use tripwire till I decided to tryout Siggy. Tripwire had too many issues, mainly being that it wasnt reliable to update when we'd jump into wormholes. Sometimes it would update, sometimes not. I haven't had any issues with Siggy and have stuck with it since.

I hope Tripwire gets all its issues resolved though.


Hmm, not sure if it has been fixed or not.

Sometimes I get a report of an issue and am not able to confirm. After trying to work with reporter without success in duplicating issue and no further reports - I usually put it aside until new reports are made. Problem comes when everyone assumes an issue has been reported and just wait in hopes it will get fixed soon.

I continue to try my best to resolve any bugs/issues while still adding new features and expanding existing ones.

Creator of Tripwire mapping tool - EVE-O thread

Twitter | daimian.mercer@gmail.com

TurboX3
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#13 - 2015-07-07 20:50:28 UTC
Siggy all the way..... you won't get "others" browsing.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#14 - 2015-07-07 21:31:59 UTC
TurboX3 wrote:
Siggy all the way..... you won't get "others" browsing.

Lolol
Fallere Dallocort
Rogues and Destitutes
#15 - 2015-07-09 19:11:03 UTC
Daimian Mercer wrote:
Altirius Saldiaro wrote:
I used to use tripwire till I decided to tryout Siggy. Tripwire had too many issues, mainly being that it wasnt reliable to update when we'd jump into wormholes. Sometimes it would update, sometimes not. I haven't had any issues with Siggy and have stuck with it since.

I hope Tripwire gets all its issues resolved though.


Hmm, not sure if it has been fixed or not.

Sometimes I get a report of an issue and am not able to confirm. After trying to work with reporter without success in duplicating issue and no further reports - I usually put it aside until new reports are made. Problem comes when everyone assumes an issue has been reported and just wait in hopes it will get fixed soon.

I continue to try my best to resolve any bugs/issues while still adding new features and expanding existing ones.




I'm new to WHs and have ben recommended to use tripwire. So far I a 30% failure for it to work correctly. I am not sure if it in any part to trying to determine if I want to stay with the new in-game star map or the old one. yesterday I decided to switch to the old map when I logged in before using tripwire because the new star map is too difficult when creating safe spots (the you are here icon jumps from spot to spot rather than across the map as you fly). Once I got the old star map in place I then I brought up the IGB and started trying to use tripwire. Much to my chagrin, it would not automap the WHs or generate any chains. The cut and paste was working and that is the only time the WHs formed in the chain but without information, just ??? Even after jumping through and returning.

I tried closing the browser, logging out and back into tripwire and eve logged off of EvE but to no avail.

I am not real sure how to use the OOG version and have not tried it as of yet.

Any suggestions for additional troubleshooting, other forum links that I should follow (if this is an inappropriate location).


"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
― Hunter S. Thompson
Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-07-10 22:25:27 UTC
I will take some time this weekend to test the auto-mapping feature and see if I can round up some testers that have been very helpful with debugging Tripwire. I will post my findings and hopefully notice of a fix for the issues.

I encourage anyone to bug me about Tripwire issues - I will never ignore you or get upset

If there comes a time I cannot support/fix bugs in a timely manor I will release the source code so the project won't die.

Creator of Tripwire mapping tool - EVE-O thread

Twitter | daimian.mercer@gmail.com

Fallere Dallocort
Rogues and Destitutes
#17 - 2015-07-11 20:18:00 UTC
Daimian Mercer wrote:
I will take some time this weekend to test the auto-mapping feature and see if I can round up some testers that have been very helpful with debugging Tripwire. I will post my findings and hopefully notice of a fix for the issues.

I encourage anyone to bug me about Tripwire issues - I will never ignore you or get upset

If there comes a time I cannot support/fix bugs in a timely manor I will release the source code so the project won't die.



Sounds great. As of this week, I cannot get the automapper to create chains nor auto update the WH info links. I just get ??? below the system I am in. In fact, there are no WH listed when I enter and no links appear until I scan all WH (and other sites) and do a cut and paste. Jumping into several following systems and then trying to work my way back results in no auto updates, no chains. The site data is retained but that is about all.

I am willing to assist in debugging by helping capture errors or code but would need a guide as to what should be captured. Just in-game email me and I'll be glad to help.

I haven't changed anything other than switching between maps to experiment with scanning features of each but since then tripwire has not operated correctly.

Regards,
Fallere




"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
― Hunter S. Thompson
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-07-13 18:30:47 UTC
I've been using tripwire since it first came out. From daily use I'd have to say in its current state it is rock solid. Any time I have had issues it has generally been the S**ty IGB needing a cache file clear or something.
Fallere Dallocort
Rogues and Destitutes
#19 - 2015-07-13 20:28:44 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
I've been using tripwire since it first came out. From daily use I'd have to say in its current state it is rock solid. Any time I have had issues it has generally been the S**ty IGB needing a cache file clear or something.



IGB cache clear? Okay, I'll give it a shot. It may be a couple of days before I can try as it is the beginning of a new RL work week but I will explore this option.


It is a great tool, just disappointed that it has been unresponsive for nearly 2 weeks now.







"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
― Hunter S. Thompson
Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-07-14 03:40:04 UTC
OK so the bug didn't turn out to be an actual bug really... Shocked

if your auto-mapper doesn't work or causes duplicates... and/or the auto-follow doesn't change your viewing system....

#1 rule to follow... only turn on the auto-mapping ( A ) and auto-follow ( >> ) on one browser. This means if you have the IGB open but use say Chrome out of game.. don't turn them on in both.

Otherwise both browser might do things at the same time and the server is left to sort out things and the browsers don't reflect/update correctly until a page refresh.


Creator of Tripwire mapping tool - EVE-O thread

Twitter | daimian.mercer@gmail.com

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