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Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#281 - 2015-06-23 17:34:14 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:

And it is completely useless as long as gankers use free ships which can be spammed in thousands at literally no cost.
You must be bad at this game if you don't know even the basics of it.

As long as ganking is free and stupidly easy, every activity is at disadvantage before it by being not free.

So why don't you use free ships to anti-gank then? This is getting a bit confusing now.. can you explain why our ships are free and yours are not?


Your confusion comes from stupidity, this is incurable.
You can gank in free ship because it's easy. You cannot counter-gank in a free ship because gank bringing just a bit of overkill will laugh at your pathetic attempt to harm them. They are invincible because free ship is no loss. They can always have more of them, then just finish the gank later or bring the 2nd wave of another 32 alts in free ships. You can kill 2-3 of them and it changes absolutely nothing, since due to free ship they lose nothing.


Just wondering who's paying for my ships because my wallet says I do.


I think he may have confused newbie-ships with the actual ganking ships you guys use. Or he thinks gankers use newbie-ships to gank people. Which would be hilarious, please do that!


I love this idea.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#282 - 2015-06-23 17:52:22 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Your confusion comes from stupidity, this is incurable.
You can gank in free ship because it's easy. You cannot counter-gank in a free ship because gank bringing just a bit of overkill will laugh at your pathetic attempt to harm them. They are invincible because free ship is no loss. They can always have more of them, then just finish the gank later or bring the 2nd wave of another 32 alts in free ships. You can kill 2-3 of them and it changes absolutely nothing, since due to free ship they lose nothing.

So then bring another 32 alt or friends of your own in free ships? I don't see your problem. Or is your problem that the other side is prepared, adapting and working together, while you are just sitting there alone and use the fail ECM fit someone in anti-ganking linked you two months ago?


You don't see a problem due to stupidity, it's incurable.

One side has just boarded free ships and enjoys stupid invincibility mode it gives. If other side brings as much, they still lose a freighter, because being in a ship worth nothing makes you invincible since you lose nothing no matter how you're hit.

In other words, for absolute stupid (which CODE mainly is): If I bring free ships I can gank someone, but defending a ship with actual cost is still impossible, because free ships chew it anyway, no matter how many free ships you bring. Even if you kill some free ships, it doesn't matter, because they are free and get instantly replaced. F1 monkeying is not cooperation. Stuffing a freighterful of free ships on Jita and getting it to Uedama is stupidly easy like everything in ganking. And oh the great skill of scanning ships on gates... that's just ridiculously dumb, if that is skill, being able to log in is uber skill.

Falling to ganking because it's the only cretin-proof activity is not adapting, it's degenerating. Degenerates banding together is older than copper age. Ganking just needs a little push into skill area and removal of free ships to make people like you fail it and cry.
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#283 - 2015-06-23 17:53:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Bellatrix Invicta
Orca Platypus wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Your confusion comes from stupidity, this is incurable.
You can gank in free ship because it's easy. You cannot counter-gank in a free ship because gank bringing just a bit of overkill will laugh at your pathetic attempt to harm them. They are invincible because free ship is no loss. They can always have more of them, then just finish the gank later or bring the 2nd wave of another 32 alts in free ships. You can kill 2-3 of them and it changes absolutely nothing, since due to free ship they lose nothing.

So then bring another 32 alt or friends of your own in free ships? I don't see your problem. Or is your problem that the other side is prepared, adapting and working together, while you are just sitting there alone and use the fail ECM fit someone in anti-ganking linked you two months ago?


You don't see a problem due to stupidity, it's incurable.

One side has just boarded free ships and enjoys stupid invincibility mode it gives. If other side brings as much, they still lose a freighter, because being in a ship worth nothing makes you invincible since you lose nothing no matter how you're hit.

In other words, for absolute stupid (which CODE mainly is): If I bring free ships I can gank someone, but defending a ship with actual cost is still impossible, because free ships chew it anyway, no matter how many free ships you bring. Even if you kill some free ships, it doesn't matter, because they are free and get instantly replaced. F1 monkeying is not cooperation. Stuffing a freighterful of free ships on Jita and getting it to Uedama is stupidly easy like everything in ganking. And oh the great skill of scanning ships on gates... that's just ridiculously dumb, if that is skill, being able to log in is uber skill.

Falling to ganking because it's the only cretin-proof activity is not adapting, it's degenerating. Degenerates banding together is older than copper age. Ganking just needs a little push into skill area and removal of free ships to make people like you fail it and cry.


Still waiting on clarity on what "free ships" we're flying.

And you nailed the problem with anti-ganking right on the head: you can't stop the gank so why try? We all KNOW we're going to lose our Catalyst when CONCORD shows up and by that time our target is dead.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#284 - 2015-06-23 17:56:34 UTC
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:

Still waiting on clarity on what "free ships" we're flying.

And you nailed the problem with anti-ganking right on the head: you can't stop the gank so why try? We all KNOW we're going to lose our Catalyst when CONCORD shows up and by that time our target is dead.


Catalyst is essentially a free ship. If you prefer to bling it, it's your own problem, and doesn't mean it's not free.
You knew perfectly what I were talking about and still make me say it for you, it seems I'm getting dragged all the way down to CODE level...
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#285 - 2015-06-23 17:58:56 UTC
Orca Platypus wrote:
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:

Still waiting on clarity on what "free ships" we're flying.

And you nailed the problem with anti-ganking right on the head: you can't stop the gank so why try? We all KNOW we're going to lose our Catalyst when CONCORD shows up and by that time our target is dead.


Catalyst is essentially a free ship. If you prefer to bling it, it's your own problem, and doesn't mean it's not free.
You knew perfectly what I were talking about and still make me say it for you, it seems I'm getting dragged all the way down to CODE level...


So now it's an ESSENTIALLY free ship, and not completely free. Okay, I just want to make sure you actually say what you mean instead of using weasel words to try to seem bigger than you are.

Bling? On a suicide Cat? ROFL. If T2 neutron blasters and T2 MFS are bling then I'm guilty. I still pay for them.

BTW, I didn't drag you anywhere... you willingly came along.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#286 - 2015-06-23 18:03:42 UTC
Orca Platypus wrote:

You don't see a problem due to stupidity, it's incurable.

One side has just boarded free ships and enjoys stupid invincibility mode it gives. If other side brings as much, they still lose a freighter, because being in a ship worth nothing makes you invincible since you lose nothing no matter how you're hit.

In other words, for absolute stupid (which CODE mainly is): If I bring free ships I can gank someone, but defending a ship with actual cost is still impossible, because free ships chew it anyway, no matter how many free ships you bring. Even if you kill some free ships, it doesn't matter, because they are free and get instantly replaced. F1 monkeying is not cooperation. Stuffing a freighterful of free ships on Jita and getting it to Uedama is stupidly easy like everything in ganking. And oh the great skill of scanning ships on gates... that's just ridiculously dumb, if that is skill, being able to log in is uber skill.

Falling to ganking because it's the only cretin-proof activity is not adapting, it's degenerating. Degenerates banding together is older than copper age. Ganking just needs a little push into skill area and removal of free ships to make people like you fail it and cry.

Calm down miner.

I am not sure why you call others stupid if you are not even able to fight people who can only survive for 25s on grid in a ship because you have your magical police force on your side. I mean how much more easy does it have to be for you to actually win the fight?

I am still puzzled because of the free ships stuff however... maybe you can tell me where I can get them?

Evil RatKid
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#287 - 2015-06-23 18:03:56 UTC
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:

Still waiting on clarity on what "free ships" we're flying.

And you nailed the problem with anti-ganking right on the head: you can't stop the gank so why try? We all KNOW we're going to lose our Catalyst when CONCORD shows up and by that time our target is dead.


Catalyst is essentially a free ship. If you prefer to bling it, it's your own problem, and doesn't mean it's not free.
You knew perfectly what I were talking about and still make me say it for you, it seems I'm getting dragged all the way down to CODE level...


So now it's an ESSENTIALLY free ship, and not completely free. Okay, I just want to make sure you actually say what you mean instead of using weasel words to try to seem bigger than you are.

Bling? On a suicide Cat? ROFL. If T2 neutron blasters and T2 MFS are bling then I'm guilty. I still pay for them.

BTW, I didn't drag you anywhere... you willingly came along.


They cost is negligible, you can buy 1000 without even noticing the cost.
If you want to fit T2 and make free ship not free, it's you being stupid blingmaniac, not my fault.
The ship is free and it's one of the causes ganking became so stupid - you can do it for free, and it'f cretin-proof and loss-proof. Take that away, you will start failing like no tomorrow.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#288 - 2015-06-23 18:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:


I think he may have confused newbie-ships with the actual ganking ships you guys use. Or he thinks gankers use newbie-ships to gank people. Which would be hilarious, please do that!


I love this idea.


Suddenly Spaceships did that already and made it into one of the coolest pvp videos I have ever seen.
Not sure if anyone could beat that- and what would be the point of re-using the idea if you cannot out-awesome the previous event?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#289 - 2015-06-23 18:07:21 UTC
Orca Platypus wrote:
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:

Still waiting on clarity on what "free ships" we're flying.

And you nailed the problem with anti-ganking right on the head: you can't stop the gank so why try? We all KNOW we're going to lose our Catalyst when CONCORD shows up and by that time our target is dead.


Catalyst is essentially a free ship. If you prefer to bling it, it's your own problem, and doesn't mean it's not free.
You knew perfectly what I were talking about and still make me say it for you, it seems I'm getting dragged all the way down to CODE level...


So now it's an ESSENTIALLY free ship, and not completely free. Okay, I just want to make sure you actually say what you mean instead of using weasel words to try to seem bigger than you are.

Bling? On a suicide Cat? ROFL. If T2 neutron blasters and T2 MFS are bling then I'm guilty. I still pay for them.

BTW, I didn't drag you anywhere... you willingly came along.


They cost is negligible, you can buy 1000 without even noticing the cost.
If you want to fit T2 and make free ship not free, it's you being stupid blingmaniac, not my fault.
The ship is free and it's one of the causes ganking became so stupid - you can do it for free, and it'f cretin-proof and loss-proof. Take that away, you will start failing like no tomorrow.


First it's free, then it's not free, then it's free again. Miner, please make up your mind.

Here, this is my suicide Catalyst fit:

8x Neutron Blaster II
1x Warp Scrambler I
1x Sensor Booster I
3x Magnetic Field Stablizer II
120x Void S

Man. The bling, it hurts my eyes. Can someone cut the lights? Seriously, that shine...

If ganking were cretin-proof, then surely you could suicide gank two Ventures and link the KMs? If you can't, well, then you would be a cretin. You're NOT a cretin, are you?

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#290 - 2015-06-23 18:07:51 UTC
Orca Platypus wrote:
They cost is negligible, you can buy 1000 without even noticing the cost.
If you want to fit T2 and make free ship not free, it's you being stupid blingmaniac, not my fault.
The ship is free and it's one of the causes ganking became so stupid - you can do it for free, and it'f cretin-proof and loss-proof. Take that away, you will start failing like no tomorrow.

Then we will use Coercers, they have exactly the same amount of DPS.

[Adapted]

Go on, what should CCP do next to help you play the game?

Evil RatKid
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#291 - 2015-06-23 18:12:52 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
They cost is negligible, you can buy 1000 without even noticing the cost.
If you want to fit T2 and make free ship not free, it's you being stupid blingmaniac, not my fault.
The ship is free and it's one of the causes ganking became so stupid - you can do it for free, and it'f cretin-proof and loss-proof. Take that away, you will start failing like no tomorrow.

Then we will use Coercers, they have exactly the same amount of DPS.

[Adapted]

Go on, what should CCP do next to help you play the game?


CCP should get their balls together and gut you removing all the free ships from ganking.
That's not even hard to do, spawn CONCORD immediately if more than 10 criminal acts occur on the same grid, no more free ship mass ganks, job well done.

Once again, falling to ganking because you're a degenerate is not adapting, it's just further degeneration.
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#292 - 2015-06-23 18:13:50 UTC
I hate coercer gankers.

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#293 - 2015-06-23 18:15:15 UTC
John E Normus wrote:
I hate coercer gankers.

Don't hate yourself, it's just your stupid talking.
Then again, you won't be in CODE if you didn't listen to your stupid 7/24.
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#294 - 2015-06-23 18:15:21 UTC
Orca Platypus wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
They cost is negligible, you can buy 1000 without even noticing the cost.
If you want to fit T2 and make free ship not free, it's you being stupid blingmaniac, not my fault.
The ship is free and it's one of the causes ganking became so stupid - you can do it for free, and it'f cretin-proof and loss-proof. Take that away, you will start failing like no tomorrow.

Then we will use Coercers, they have exactly the same amount of DPS.

[Adapted]

Go on, what should CCP do next to help you play the game?


CCP should get their balls together and gut you removing all the free ships from ganking.
That's not even hard to do, spawn CONCORD immediately if more than 10 criminal acts occur on the same grid, no more free ship mass ganks, job well done.

Once again, falling to ganking because you're a degenerate is not adapting, it's just further degeneration.


Then we'll bring 9 people in 4 seperate fleets. Or 50 people in one huge blob. Or SUDDENLY BOMBERS. Or anything.

You can't stop us, no matter how hard you want to. You can try, but given past attempts... you will fail.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#295 - 2015-06-23 18:19:01 UTC
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
They cost is negligible, you can buy 1000 without even noticing the cost.
If you want to fit T2 and make free ship not free, it's you being stupid blingmaniac, not my fault.
The ship is free and it's one of the causes ganking became so stupid - you can do it for free, and it'f cretin-proof and loss-proof. Take that away, you will start failing like no tomorrow.

Then we will use Coercers, they have exactly the same amount of DPS.

[Adapted]

Go on, what should CCP do next to help you play the game?


CCP should get their balls together and gut you removing all the free ships from ganking.
That's not even hard to do, spawn CONCORD immediately if more than 10 criminal acts occur on the same grid, no more free ship mass ganks, job well done.

Once again, falling to ganking because you're a degenerate is not adapting, it's just further degeneration.


Then we'll bring 9 people in 4 seperate fleets. Or 50 people in one huge blob. Or SUDDENLY BOMBERS. Or anything.

You can't stop us, no matter how hard you want to. You can try, but given past attempts... you will fail.


You will still have to stop being F1 monkeys and derps you are, which is accomplishing something.
After all, you people would just find next cretin-proof activity, your sheep kind is very good at that.
That's hardly adapting though, it's just falling lower and lower.
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#296 - 2015-06-23 18:20:15 UTC
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:


If ganking were cretin-proof, then surely you could suicide gank two Ventures and link the KMs? If you can't, well, then you would be a cretin. You're NOT a cretin, are you?


You want to weigh in on this, miner?

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#297 - 2015-06-23 18:27:29 UTC
Haha how is this still going.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Paranoid Loyd
#298 - 2015-06-23 18:28:49 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Haha how is this still going.

It only takes one troll and one CODE member to reply to said troll to keep it going. Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#299 - 2015-06-23 18:29:44 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Haha how is this still going.


Because whenever a tears thread is created, CODE. is called. Once CODE. is on the scene, well, we all know how that goes. HOWEVER! This one took a turn as the OP realized he was being a crybaby and adopted a new outlook.

After he did that, everyone else decided to stop reading the thread and only comment on the OP. Oops? Then we get the forum white knight, Orca Platypus, swooping in and attempting to save everyone.

He's failing.

So, yeah, I guess that's how.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#300 - 2015-06-23 18:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tengu Grib
Owen Levanth wrote:


I think he may have confused newbie-ships with the actual ganking ships you guys use. Or he thinks gankers use newbie-ships to gank people. Which would be hilarious, please do that!


It's been done. And it was awesome.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.