Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes we are finally ready for this
Why?
Currently almost any frigate can instantly kill any wreck. This have good and bad application in game, but usually it is abused to prevent someone from warp , salvage or loot something.

Just to prevent this from happening we should think about giving wrecks more EHP.
To simplify we will have 5 basic types of wrecks : S , M , L , XL , XXL
* S corresponds to current wreck ehp and all it is being created when destroyer or smaller ship dies ( no difference T1/T2 or T3)
* M will have around 1.5k EHP. It is created after destroying (battle)cruser or industrial ship
* L comes from Battleship (maybe also orca) and have 5k EHP
* XL wreck come from carrier, dread, freighter , jump freighter and rorqual , it have 20k EHP
* XXL wreck come from supper carrier or Titan, it have around 50k ehp.

What will this change?
2 simple examples:
- new fleet opportunity : common tactic is to kill all wrecks near your fleet to remove unwanted wapins.
- more dead freighters : after ganking a freighter , common thing is to kill the wreck. If this wreck could be left alive , someone will try to pick this stuff up in another freighter , gaining suspect timer

It would be logical that bigger wrecks have more ehp.

This is logical. And it would also allow us to see a bit longer those shiny big capitals wrecks CCP invested time to design.

+1

One question though, is this a silent (I want to loot the suicide ganked freighter wreck we kills before someone shoots it) thread, would it?

If so, unsupported.... The only thing better than suicide ganking a freighter is trolling the gankers by popping the wreck...

Yes , like you see this is one of the issues.
Most important for me are the warpins, after the fleet warp changes those will be very important things on battlefield.
"We need to kill one of the leading ships to provide warpin to bombers!"

Now you just ungroup your guns and instantly clear those.

Remember that when people see ISK they tend to do stupid things , and provide tons of content.

If you want to troll the gankers , have a bomber with scrams sitting near the dead freighter.
No targeting delay after decloack.

seems very logical:)

No objections. +1

Thats the whole point.
Wrecks are wrecks.
How many times you see a wreck and want to check what it is there , how many times you warped to wreck....

Look at big fleets, many times you kill wreck to remove warpins - this will be still viable after, just not so easy and instant, and after fleet warp changes very important.

True that I guess, though it isn't always profitable for the gankers.

I hope NPC militia and standings become relevant enough to replace sec status and Concord, standings are annoying rather than "oh **** I can't go here".

HIgh?
Cruiser - battlecruiser can have from few to few dozen thousand EHP, so 1.5k ehp wreck is not much.
Battleship ehp start from frew dozen thousands , so 5k is small compared to this.
Capitals , they tend to have from few hundred thousands to few milion sometimes , again just 20k ehp
Supers , well those can go to few dozen milion ehp , and we have only 50k ehp on wreck ( 1 shoot to fighter bombers , or 2 shoots for dread)