EVE General Discussion

If you are smart, you don't even need to jump around highsec, though that works perfectly fine too. The 90% reduction in fatigue makes it possible to chain jumps together without too much hassle.

My industry alt does the Stacmon -> Dodixie -> Jita and return run twice a week.

I just put a cyno alt in Yvangier waiting on station to be lit if needed. Yvangier can be jumped to from every single system along that run (all her jump skills are at level IV). So if there was ever any problem, I would light the cyno and jump. Gone within a few seconds even before any issue starts.

She does Stacmon->Amarr and Dodixie->Hek runs (I jump directly into lowsec on that run and then warp back out to highsec). No matter what route there is through highsec, there's always a good lowsec system to stage a cyno alt.

I've never had to do it on the Jita run (I usually jump back into Hevrice on the way back and from there into Syndicate, avoiding all the trouble gank systems), because all of the other methods work perfectly too.

I'm Scipio's industry alt. I haul stuff all the time. Never had a single problem.

If I ever had to jump out to Yvangier on the Stacmon-Jita run, then I can either:

1. warp from there to a highsec exit (Charmerout) and continue, or
2. move my cyno alt and make a second jump before continuing.

I jumped into Tama once (my butt was quite clenched) and then warped to the Nourvakaiken gate because the route out from Syndicate via Reblier and then to Jita is much shorter than via Dastryns->Stacmon. Only did it the once, but it is quite possible to totally avoid bumpers and gankers in a JF and the train into them is not all that long.

They don't carry as much as a regular freighter and cost more, but just depends on how you want to manage risk.

It certainly doesn't require in my opinion, CCP to nerf someone else's playstyle just because they present a risk to me.

Please explain how gankers are 'violating the TOS' when CCP has made it clear ganking in and of itself is perfectly acceptable. That's just one example, let's not forget that study that was presented at fanfest either.

Tried that. ECM just requires bringing 2-3 extra free catalyst pilots. Same with any kind of firepower, in the timeframe of 17 seconds it's difficult to kill more than 2 catalysts. Same with any kind of logictics, no countering that much dps against a vessel with pretty much derp resists.

Worst of all, all those ships are also gankable, even easier than freighter, and some cost more than entire gank party on free catalysts. You're just feeding gankers extra, it's anti-counter.

Guess you're too lazy to read the ToS.



As for Falcon's fail post in that thread, he tried to justify Concord game mechanics by comparing it with real life Law Enforcement Agency's. Obviously he doesn't know how Law Enforcement works or he wouldn't have stated :

That statement may be true in a sense whereas a criminal may get away with committing a crime the first few times but in real life they are soon hunted down, incarcerated and or put to death.

Anyway, nice try at using that as an example for justification.


DMC

I'm sorry, let me get this straight. You're of the opinion that gankers are operating as a hate group equal to racist bigotry? You actually think they hate you and the people they gank? If they were a hate group, they would be targeting you and your 'group' in an actually relevant context, not by blowing up your spaceship in a game that prides itself on the frequency of explosions. Do you feel you are the target of a hate crime when you land on someone else's Boardwalk in Monopoly? Get some perspective man.

Your corp not!
But when I see your char and your gold pod killmail I am sure you can. And you have flown the freighter, so it was your mistake.

From my perspective the solution is clear. Pay back to your corp what you lost for them.

DMC trollin really hard right now!

Of course gankers are attacking a minority! All these poor victims need to get some protection from all the evil in this and every other world! Suicide gankers are everywhere! In every system there's someone watching people are compliant to whatever these evil tyrants want to dictate onto all these sad helpless toonies! To change this issue they should just all stop playing and posting! That'll send a clear message and suddenly no one creates any content anymore and the mineral market will slowly dry out! No one gets any ships anymore and gankers can fly around tryin to shoot people in their pods!

DOWN WITH THE EVIL!


I keep forgettin to sign my posts.

- Pixie Tickle

Every time I read "Calm down, Miner" in a thread I laugh out loud. I find it never gets old for me. It's the little things that add up and make this game amazing. Finn learning from this event, and participating in this discussion so positively is PFGreat, too.

I'm honestly agog that someone would use THAT ToS clause as proof that gankers are "bad people". Just...wow.

I've actually been the target of legit hate-mongering because of who I am. The fact that someone would conflate a legitimate gameplay activity approved by the devs with some of the BS I've gone through is downright astounding. Get a freaking grip. If you think "Getting blown up in the blowing up spaceships game" is in any way comparable to, say, sending death threats to a LGBT person (has happened to me, on Eve), then I say you need to turn off the computer, go outside, and experience the real world for a little while.

Let's put our money where our mouth is on this, though. DMC, you go ahead and file a support ticket, quoting that clause, and see what CCP has to say about it. In turn, I will file support tickets every time myself, or one of my game friends is subject to the "anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering" slurs that carebears seem fond of flinging out, after they lose a PVP encounter. We can compare notes later and see what CCP thinks on the matter.