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An idea for ship redesigns(and my first topic made)

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Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-06-22 17:44:02 UTC
Hello. I played eve for about 4 months 2 years ago. Then I came back a few months ago and have gotten back into it. It's a wonderful game with wonderful ships. The ships are what brought me to this game. So many amazing looks and designs to chose from.

When I came back I realized a few ships looked different. Over the last couple months I've heard news of more ships getting redesigns as time goes. I think this is a wonderful idea. Like a car, as tike goes on they change styles of how the car looks and even performs. Many people will love the changes. Some ships that they don't really like the looks of May change for the better.

But at the same time, there are people who love their ships. The way they look could have been a huge selling going for them. (I know it is for some of my ships) and the redesigns coming are scary. I seen multiple people talking about how the ship or ships they like have changed or will be changing.


So I came to the idea of(sorry if this has been thought of) with eve being like a "real world" on its own. Why not have something similar to the skins, in the form of ships designs? I think the most recent one I saw was the coming thrasher change? Why not have the ability to pick which design you want to use? Be able to change between the 2.

Or.

If a car company changed a car, everyone who owned one wouldn't just wake up to find their car magically transformed. Why should ships? They could launch the "new" ship, with the redesign. And have the ones remaining in space already stay the same. As time goes old designs would obviously be destroyed in pve/pvp. Raising the rarity of older designs, like a classic car.

If they wanted they could even change the ones that are "on the market" to the new designs. While the ones owned by players not on the market would retain the old styles.

I'm sure there's probably a few ditfrways this could be implemented . But this could be just an idea of how to proceed with redesigns in the future.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-06-22 17:53:52 UTC
You can actually SEE your ships while flying? O_o

That's why I don't really get SKINs either. For shipspinning, sure but anytime a ship is undocked, I have my camera pulled nearly all the way out.

Could just be me, though.

...no, it's not.

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Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-06-22 18:06:02 UTC
Yes I can always see my ship... Why would you be zoomed all the way out?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2015-06-22 18:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
This is a old subject that comes up from time to to time.

The general response is; maintaining two separate sets of models/assets would double the workload... especially if the old model is not compliant with the new art assets that are being worked on and introduced.
Each time here is a change, the models have to be altered.

Now you might say, "that's crap. CCP is able to have multiple paint schemes for the same ship. Why not different models?"
Ship skins are different from models. And a hell of a lot simpler (based on my understanding of the DEV blog talking about the background work of ship skins).
A skin simply adds certain colors in a predefined way to a model (the model has the "rules" for how the color or texture should look... where the hardpoints are... etc.).
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-06-22 18:10:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Svenja Timofeyeva
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Yes I can always see my ship... Why would you be zoomed all the way out?

Because that's the only way to know what's going on around you. Playing zoomed in means you have zero awareness of your current situation as the overview is a crappy inteltool.

*Wow this new keyboard on this new phone is potato laxative. Ugh
Cyber SGB
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-06-22 18:14:05 UTC
Freya Sertan wrote:
You can actually SEE your ships while flying? O_o

That's why I don't really get SKINs either. For shipspinning, sure but anytime a ship is undocked, I have my camera pulled nearly all the way out.

Could just be me, though.

...no, it's not.



Yes, I can see my ship while it is out in space. Amazing isn't it? Someone doesn't play the same as you. I enjoy watching my ship fly around and shoot things.

The op has an interesting idea, but I feel like it would be a waste. The ships would be destroyed quickly enough unless you keep them inside a station forever. After all, a standard ship is for being blown up anyway. I don't miss the old designs enough to care.

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Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-06-22 18:14:50 UTC
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Yes I can always see my ship... Why would you be zoomed all the way out?

Because that's the only way to know what's going on around you. Playing zoomed in means you have zero awareness of your current situation as the overview is a crappy inteltool.

*Wow this new keyboard on this new phone is potato laxative. Ugh



I guess since I'm not pvp/lowsec it doesn't bother me lol. I've never had a reason to be zoomed out
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-06-22 18:16:43 UTC
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Yes I can always see my ship... Why would you be zoomed all the way out?

Because that's the only way to know what's going on around you. Playing zoomed in means you have zero awareness of your current situation as the overview is a crappy inteltool.

*Wow this new keyboard on this new phone is potato laxative. Ugh



I guess since I'm not pvp/lowsec it doesn't bother me lol. I've never had a reason to be zoomed out

Well then let's hope someone teaches ya a necessary lesson.
Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-06-22 18:19:23 UTC
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Yes I can always see my ship... Why would you be zoomed all the way out?

Because that's the only way to know what's going on around you. Playing zoomed in means you have zero awareness of your current situation as the overview is a crappy inteltool.

*Wow this new keyboard on this new phone is potato laxative. Ugh



I guess since I'm not pvp/lowsec it doesn't bother me lol. I've never had a reason to be zoomed out

Well then let's hope someone teaches ya a necessary lesson.



Oh I've been ganked . Doesn't bother me. I'll still take seeing my ship over being zoomed out lol. If I get blown up I just buy a new one
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-06-22 18:20:26 UTC
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Yes I can always see my ship... Why would you be zoomed all the way out?

Because that's the only way to know what's going on around you. Playing zoomed in means you have zero awareness of your current situation as the overview is a crappy inteltool.

*Wow this new keyboard on this new phone is potato laxative. Ugh



I guess since I'm not pvp/lowsec it doesn't bother me lol. I've never had a reason to be zoomed out

Well then let's hope someone teaches ya a necessary lesson.



Oh I've been ganked . Doesn't bother me. I'll still take seeing my ship over being zoomed out lol. If I get blown up I just buy a new one


Please keep playing Eve.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.

Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-06-22 18:25:10 UTC
Can't tell if that's sarcasm or sincerity but I'll keep playing
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-06-22 18:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Freya Sertan
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Can't tell if that's sarcasm or sincerity but I'll keep playing


Sincere. If after being ganked your attitude is to just buy another ship and keep going, that makes me smile.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-06-22 18:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Well then let's hope someone teaches ya a necessary lesson.

Overview works fine enough for my purposes. Being a mostly solo PvE pilot I'm either in places where no players ships should be on grid but my own or moving in such a way that if I'm on grid long enough for the locations of those around me to matter I'm doing something wrong.

On topic:

Between client size bloating, near doubling of the number of skins that need updates for future rendering changes like the recent V5++ update, further slowing of skin releases by way of having more models to skin, and in the case of the latter idea concerns with constantly upsetting ship markets by turning multiple ships into limited edition items, I can't see the idea of maintaining 2 sets of assets becoming a reality.
Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-06-22 18:29:24 UTC
Freya Sertan wrote:
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
Can't tell if that's sarcasm or sincerity but I'll keep playing


Sincere. If after being ganked your attitude is to just buy another shp and keep going, that makes me smile.


Awesome =D
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-06-22 18:45:57 UTC
Ah sounds all good to me then.

/me hugs and rubs you.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#16 - 2015-06-22 20:07:32 UTC
So this is another 'the new thrasher looks like crap ccp' thread? got it..

Seriously, CCP should just STOP telling you guys the changes. Damned if they do, damned if they don;t

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Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-06-22 20:52:09 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
So this is another 'the new thrasher looks like crap ccp' thread? got it..

Seriously, CCP should just STOP telling you guys the changes. Damned if they do, damned if they don;t



You... Didn't really ready what I had to say. This was about multiple designs and the possibility of having multiple designs for the same ship.

The thrasher comment was an example from a thread I saw. I don't care for the thrasher either way personally lol.

Please read posts before posting and making yourself look ignorant
Wendrika Hydreiga
#18 - 2015-06-22 22:11:10 UTC
What I wouldn't give for the ability to make Gallente hulls look like Caldari hulls.

Heart of a Tristan, outside of a Merlin, Guristas SKIN.

How wonderful would that be. Gallente ships look like potatoes anyways.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#19 - 2015-06-23 00:39:42 UTC
Freya Sertan wrote:
You can actually SEE your ships while flying? O_o
Sure.
Tent, house, barn... mushroom.

Who put the goat in there?

Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-06-23 00:42:27 UTC
Please make my beloved Dominix not look like a giant green space-potato.Big smile
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