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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#101 - 2015-06-21 01:08:06 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Your factually wrong, pvp is player vs player ie 2 or more player engaged in combat together, these sort of things are like racing just because im on the road in my racecar and overtake a tractor it does not mean i won the race. Because the tractor was just driving on the road not racing


I understand the point you're making, and I understand why you are making it. You don't like ganking because it's not in-keeping with the artificially narrow and absurd definition of PVP you've come up with to inflate your own ego.

"Ganking isn't honorable combat between equal combatants, therefore it is not combat at all." or something like that is your line of reasoning. This allows you to think that you're in some way superior to gankers because you do real PVP and they don't. It's utterly transparent and a load of horse crap.

You can dislike ganking and feel superior to gankers as much as you like if that's what gets you hard, but no amount of wishful thinking on your part will make ganking anything other than an inherently PVP activity. Sorry about that.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#102 - 2015-06-21 06:05:12 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Arkady Romanov wrote:
Hopefully never.

These are not ships that belong under Concord's aegis.


Indeed.


you guys are just scared that people in highsec have access to the same arsenal, after we have comparable bulletpower, we will sweep into your lands and bring blood and tears to you nulldogs... just wait and see


If that ever happens we would harest you high sec dwellers like ripe grapes.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#103 - 2015-06-21 10:04:19 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Arkady Romanov wrote:
Hopefully soon.

These are ships that also belong under Concord's aegis.


Indeed.


Fixed.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#104 - 2015-06-21 10:14:56 UTC
Bad idea imo.

Oh god.
Pryce Caesar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2015-06-21 18:01:08 UTC
If there was any intention on the part of the CCP to allow Capital ships into High-Sec space, I do believe that it would be because of what is going on right now with the Drifters/Sleepers. They are connected to the Jove in some way, and I do recall reading the lore about the Jovian Motherships. What if the Sleepers have their own collection of Capital Ships (even Dreadnought and Titan-class Capitals), and Capital Ships would be allowed into High-Sec for whatever is going to happen with the Sleepers?
BF Guardian
Covert Intent
G H O S T S
#106 - 2015-06-22 08:13:43 UTC
As someone who has both spend a considerable amount of time as a 'carebear', and a lot of time flying capitals in low/null I can say I think this would be a VERY bad change.

This would mean that people could store capitals in highsec at next to no risk, most of the challenge would be removed from missions etc.

The idea of capitals is that they wield enormous benefits to the people that own them, but they are also a challenge to keep alive, and are attractive targets.

There is no reason to let capitals in highsec.
Even to buy/sell them. If you want a capital you have to scan the market, assess the risk, find and buy one and safely get it to its destination.

It SHOULD NOT be as easy as going to jita and back, keeping to highsec apart from the last 2 jumps which you just cyno over as this eliminates all the risk of moving a capital.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#107 - 2015-06-22 09:30:21 UTC
Pryce Caesar wrote:
Capital Ships would be allowed into High-Sec for whatever is going to happen with the Sleepers?

Does it involve generating vast amounts of ISK out of nothing?

Oh god.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#108 - 2015-06-22 09:48:42 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Your factually wrong, pvp is player vs player ie 2 or more player engaged in combat together, these sort of things are like racing just because im on the road in my racecar and overtake a tractor it does not mean i won the race. Because the tractor was just driving on the road not racing


I understand the point you're making, and I understand why you are making it. You don't like ganking because it's not in-keeping with the artificially narrow and absurd definition of PVP you've come up with to inflate your own ego.

"Ganking isn't honorable combat between equal combatants, therefore it is not combat at all." or something like that is your line of reasoning. This allows you to think that you're in some way superior to gankers because you do real PVP and they don't. It's utterly transparent and a load of horse crap.

You can dislike ganking and feel superior to gankers as much as you like if that's what gets you hard, but no amount of wishful thinking on your part will make ganking anything other than an inherently PVP activity. Sorry about that.


Everybody knows the real PVP is hot solo on solo frigate action!
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2015-06-22 09:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Your factually wrong, pvp is player vs player ie 2 or more player engaged in combat together, these sort of things are like racing just because im on the road in my racecar and overtake a tractor it does not mean i won the race. Because the tractor was just driving on the road not racing


I understand the point you're making, and I understand why you are making it. You don't like ganking because it's not in-keeping with the artificially narrow and absurd definition of PVP you've come up with to inflate your own ego.

"Ganking isn't honorable combat between equal combatants, therefore it is not combat at all." or something like that is your line of reasoning. This allows you to think that you're in some way superior to gankers because you do real PVP and they don't. It's utterly transparent and a load of horse crap.

You can dislike ganking and feel superior to gankers as much as you like if that's what gets you hard, but no amount of wishful thinking on your part will make ganking anything other than an inherently PVP activity. Sorry about that.


again you're wrong, i like ganking, have no issue with it really and often gatecamp myself and will gank anything for fun, i just do not class it as pvp just simply ganking.

However the only egos that get inflated are those who think they are superior to the gank victims and ram pvp down the their throats like they are trying to make out it was some sort of fair fight.

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#110 - 2015-06-22 11:03:49 UTC
Pryce Caesar wrote:
If there was any intention on the part of the CCP to allow Capital ships into High-Sec space, I do believe that it would be because of what is going on right now with the Drifters/Sleepers. They are connected to the Jove in some way, and I do recall reading the lore about the Jovian Motherships. What if the Sleepers have their own collection of Capital Ships (even Dreadnought and Titan-class Capitals), and Capital Ships would be allowed into High-Sec for whatever is going to happen with the Sleepers?


that would be what the game really needs, big capital fights in highsec against an alien force where everybody can join easy, so all the newcomers to eve know right away what this game is about... why hide those big fights in deep nullsec only, there could be gigantic PVE warzones in highsec each day where thousand of ships battle to their bones, this is what the people want and this would bring a real turnaround to the game

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2015-06-22 11:09:04 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Pryce Caesar wrote:
If there was any intention on the part of the CCP to allow Capital ships into High-Sec space, I do believe that it would be because of what is going on right now with the Drifters/Sleepers. They are connected to the Jove in some way, and I do recall reading the lore about the Jovian Motherships. What if the Sleepers have their own collection of Capital Ships (even Dreadnought and Titan-class Capitals), and Capital Ships would be allowed into High-Sec for whatever is going to happen with the Sleepers?


that would be what the game really needs, big capital fights in highsec against an alien force where everybody can join easy, so all the newcomers to eve know right away what this game is about... why hide those big fights in deep nullsec only, there could be gigantic PVE warzones in highsec each day where thousand of ships battle to their bones, this is what the people want and this would bring a real turnaround to the game



Yer i would like to spend 5hours in a fleet playing Slide Show online
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#112 - 2015-06-22 11:15:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Pryce Caesar wrote:
If there was any intention on the part of the CCP to allow Capital ships into High-Sec space, I do believe that it would be because of what is going on right now with the Drifters/Sleepers. They are connected to the Jove in some way, and I do recall reading the lore about the Jovian Motherships. What if the Sleepers have their own collection of Capital Ships (even Dreadnought and Titan-class Capitals), and Capital Ships would be allowed into High-Sec for whatever is going to happen with the Sleepers?


that would be what the game really needs, big capital fights in highsec against an alien force where everybody can join easy, so all the newcomers to eve know right away what this game is about... why hide those big fights in deep nullsec only, there could be gigantic PVE warzones in highsec each day where thousand of ships battle to their bones, this is what the people want and this would bring a real turnaround to the game



Yer i would like to spend 5hours in a fleet playing Slide Show online


blocked, only for core gamers

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Aleccia Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#113 - 2015-06-22 14:56:06 UTC
I don't care about capital ships, can we just have carriers? I want a nyx please, that I can float around highsec in.
Pryce Caesar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2015-06-22 18:17:27 UTC
Aleccia Kashada wrote:
I don't care about capital ships, can we just have carriers? I want a nyx please, that I can float around highsec in.


Carriers ARE capital ships. It is just one of the other classes of capital ship alongside Dreadnoughts and Titans.

Either way, from what I've seen, if the Sleeper presence in High-Sec amounts to something that drastically changes High-Sec New Eden, and they have all three classes of Capital Ships (Dreadnought, Carrier, Titans) then I could foresee Capitals made available in High-sec in the future.