Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A beautiful start.

capital missiles

kkthxbye

I think this is a good first step to making missiles slightly more viable in fleets. Firewalls could be quite strong and eliminate an entire fleet's dps. The HP buff will make it so missiles can still get through depending on fleet/smartbomb comp.

This also means fleet members will have to fill these roles, and makes for less ishtars on field. Plus drone fleets w/ firewall could end badly and make setting up a firewall a hazardous and annoying thing to position correctly(perhaps making missiles viable in countering drone fleets?). Lol, probably not. But still, its far more interesting an idea than the drone meta that's been ongoing for 2 years now.

I think I like where this is going. Now it comes down to serverticks and pilot positioning and flying.

Should make the entosis fights for stations more interesting when missiles finally have something to say.

Does this include Caldari Navy missiles?

What happens if it loses 1/16th of its HP? Nothing? Or something?

These HP increases are super low! And so is the resistance percentage.

Have you ever seen a firewall in action fozzie? Its usually composed of a bit more than one medium smartbomb...

Since we have to take grouping into consideration, I would at least expect 300hp for heavy missiles.

EDIT: What about T2 missiles? Clearly caldari navy ones are the most used, does an increase in HPs for these would be interesting?

ALL HAIL RAIL TENGU!

I would like to propose completely different approach:

How about just giving us a proper anti missile module (either buf for tracking disruptor or new module so we can affect missile power. We now have modules for missile range and damage application to compensate.

Why should there be an ultimate defence against missiles that if performed correctly just mitigates all dama of fleet? We don't have turret counterpart. Missile fleets already have disadvantage of delayed alpha.

While I claim no knowledge of actuall impact of missiles on lag i remember that missiles used to be significant factor back when war with lag started. Maybe removal of intractability of missiles with environment (no damage from aoe, no locking, etc...) would affect servers performance as less operations on missiles would be performed each cycle?

Fix defender missiles, so they can be used in actual scenarios or remove them completely. There are many ideas on defenders so i just name two:
- non targetet module that attacs all incoming missiles (contradicts previous point on non-interactbility of missiles)
- make them a sort of remote eccm. Buff a friend (or yourself with personal version) so that missiles hitting him/you have penalty to sig/exp speed

So to sum it up:
- remove missile interaction with environment (no more firewall)
- introduce "tracking distruptor" like module or give td anri-missiles power
- fix defenders

While i very like concept of firewall maybe its not a tactict that should be viable? Or maybe introduce anti-turret counterpart?

So these changes without adapting the defender missiles is a confirmation that they are useless?

Because at the moment light defender missiles deal 60 explosive damage and heavy defender missiles deal 70 explosive damage. (+10% for skills at V)
Which means they will be less effective against all nova missiles.
Maybe the dealt damage should be distributed equal to all damage types.
Further at least the damage of the HDM should be adapted to 120.
That way one HDM can take out one heavy missile, which is ok since they have the same RoF with the heavy missile launcher, but it's still quite useless against the rapid heavy missile launcher...
Maybe the rapid launchers should be able to load defender missiles, they still have a huge reload time...