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An open letter to CCP.

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Journey D'ark
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2015-06-21 17:20:25 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Although, I must admit, I find the notion that a valiant knight of the New Order could be bribed by bot aspirants via ransoms a little unsettling- but then again, I assume those occurences are probably rare exceptions to the rule.

Hello again Zimmy

This "ransoms" are in no way bribes, on the contrary. It's just like with any other law enforcement, you first get a ticket for the law violation, if you fail to comply the officer may need to decommission your equipment.



Bribe : persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

Jus sayin
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#62 - 2015-06-21 17:21:39 UTC
Journey D'ark wrote:
*proof* and nah, because you and I both know its true, so I'm not going to bother finding the killmails and threads that would then be "proven" to be untrue due to some violation of the "spirit"

Well, that's what they always say. Baseless accusations and then nothing... there is not a single documented incident where a New Order Agent has decommissioned a vessel of an innocent citizen. But you rebels will never stop to spew this lies...

Evil RatKid
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2015-06-21 17:36:58 UTC
Journey D'ark wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Although, I must admit, I find the notion that a valiant knight of the New Order could be bribed by bot aspirants via ransoms a little unsettling- but then again, I assume those occurences are probably rare exceptions to the rule.

Hello again Zimmy

This "ransoms" are in no way bribes, on the contrary. It's just like with any other law enforcement, you first get a ticket for the law violation, if you fail to comply the officer may need to decommission your equipment.



Bribe : persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

Jus sayin
So what's it if I paid ya 100mill to drop that top for me?
Journey D'ark
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2015-06-21 17:39:54 UTC
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Journey D'ark wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Although, I must admit, I find the notion that a valiant knight of the New Order could be bribed by bot aspirants via ransoms a little unsettling- but then again, I assume those occurences are probably rare exceptions to the rule.

Hello again Zimmy

This "ransoms" are in no way bribes, on the contrary. It's just like with any other law enforcement, you first get a ticket for the law violation, if you fail to comply the officer may need to decommission your equipment.



Bribe : persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

Jus sayin
So what's it if I paid ya 100mill to drop that top for me?


It would be a bribe to drop the top of course.
DrSmegma
Smegma United
#65 - 2015-06-21 17:43:44 UTC
I cringe every time I read "An open letter to CCP."

Do you know how many whine threads have this name?

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.
Ellegos1
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2015-06-21 18:02:38 UTC
DrSmegma wrote:
I cringe every time I read "An open letter to CCP."

Do you know how many whine threads have this name?


Apparently not enough.

- Lego
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2015-06-21 18:44:23 UTC
Journey D'ark wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Journey D'ark wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Although, I must admit, I find the notion that a valiant knight of the New Order could be bribed by bot aspirants via ransoms a little unsettling- but then again, I assume those occurences are probably rare exceptions to the rule.

Hello again Zimmy

This "ransoms" are in no way bribes, on the contrary. It's just like with any other law enforcement, you first get a ticket for the law violation, if you fail to comply the officer may need to decommission your equipment.



Bribe : persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

Jus sayin
So what's it if I paid ya 100mill to drop that top for me?


It would be a bribe to drop the top of course.
And if you were a stripper?
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#68 - 2015-06-21 18:45:00 UTC
Not sure if troll or not. Ugh
Azzurian
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2015-06-21 18:59:04 UTC
GANK REPORT FORM: PLEASE INDICATE THE DATE AND TIME BELOW


DATE AND TIME THAT YOU EXPERIENCED THE GANK:
______________________________________________________________
PLEASE DESCRIBE THE NATURE OF PAIN YOU ARE FEELING.

[ ] Gank
[ ] PVP
[ ] Smacktalk
[ ] Scam
[ ] Piracy
[ ] Camping
[ ] Game Mechanics
[ ] Because of Falcon
[ ] Other (Please Specify):


PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT THE INCIDENT OF SUFFERING.

[ ] I lost an argument in local.
[ ] Someone took all of my ISK and I got nothing in return.
[ ] I lost sov.
[ ] I got podded when i asked them not to and now my implants are gone.
[ ] Enemies blobbed me/my fleet. They clearly had more ship than I/us and it was not fair.
[ ] My corporation received a wardec in empire, but we are just industrialists.
[ ] My Fleet Commander yelled at me.
[ ] Someone started to mine an asteroid I was mining
[ ] I asked for a 1v1, but then other pilots came and helped him kill me.
[ ] I asked for a critique on my fit and got it.
[ ] Pilot will not undock so we can kill them/Pilots will not stop camping me in station.
[ ] Every time I am about to die in pvp, I get disconnected.


Other (Please Describe. Use back of this form and/or attach separate sheets as necessary)

[Y] [N] Were there tears?
[Y] [N] did you have to mine minerals to build new ship?
[Y] [N] Was there permanent mental scarring from the butthurt?
[Y] [N] Did you miss a squad/fleet assignment due to the butthurt?
[Y] [N] Were you forced to employ a coping mechanism, such as switching off your computer, or going into high-security Empire space?
[Y] [N] Were there any emergency sobbing-type pleas on ventrilo/teamspeak that cost you your time and/or embarrassment?
[Y] [N] Was there any incident of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome resulting from you typing up long-ass Butthurt Petitions?


PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT THE PERSON WHO CAUSED THE PAIN.

[ ] They are a blobbing poopy pants who should be banned from Eve forever or at least until they learn that I am better and superior and they suck and should bow down and worship me.
[ ] They deserve to be hunted down like a dog and shot dead on their own station/pos.
[ ] They and their ilk deserve to be rounded up and herded into Amarr slave camps.
[ ] There should be devs/rules to punish people like that.
[ ] They should be accountable for their actions online as in real life, so give me their info so I can stalk them.
[ ] All of the above.


DID YOU TAKE ANY ACTIONS YOURSELF REGARDING THE PAIN?

[ ] I wrote an incoherent flame on the message board.
[ ] I organized a DDoS style attack on their ventrilo/teamspeak server..
[ ] I got all of my bestest friends together and went looking for them. (Download separate Butthurt Report form.)
[ ] I created an alt with a funny variation on their name to mock them with.
[ ] I dug around on eve-kill.net to see if they had eve died embarrassingly before.
[ ] I went back to mining in a 1.0 sec system.
[ ] I realized I suck and found something else to do with my time.


Thank you for your time.
Journey D'ark
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2015-06-21 19:05:55 UTC
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Journey D'ark wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Journey D'ark wrote:



Bribe : persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

Jus sayin
So what's it if I paid ya 100mill to drop that top for me?


It would be a bribe to drop the top of course.
And if you were a stripper?


It would be 2 things, 1. my job. And 2. if you found it to be in your favor, then by the broad definition it would also be a bribe.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#71 - 2015-06-21 19:08:47 UTC
DrSmegma wrote:
I cringe every time I read "An open letter to CCP."

Do you know how many whine threads have this name?

Oh those always titled "Dear CCP" followed with a solid brick wall of text 3-5 thousand words thick.

I fairness to the op, he seems to get it now after a getting the frustration out , which isn't how these threads usually go.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#72 - 2015-06-21 19:12:54 UTC
OP, EVE is a harsh place. I've ganked and been ganked. As others have said, you can either turn this into a learning experience or, better yet, go find a couple of games (few hours left on the Steam sale) and play those. I recently came to the realization that just about anything in my Steam backlog yields more fun than logging into New Eden.

Bacon makes us stronger
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2015-06-21 19:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Svenja Timofeyeva
Journey D'ark wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Journey D'ark wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Journey D'ark wrote:



Bribe : persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

Jus sayin
So what's it if I paid ya 100mill to drop that top for me?


It would be a bribe to drop the top of course.
And if you were a stripper?


It would be 2 things, 1. my job. And 2. if you found it to be in your favor, then by the broad definition it would also be a bribe.

Okay but what if you were a stripper and told you to drop that top for 100mill but I'd not actually like it because I'm gay but my mates at the strip club don't know and socially pressured me to do it??
Journey D'ark
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2015-06-21 19:27:57 UTC
Pixie Tickle wrote:


Okay but what if you were a stripper and told you to drop that top for 100mill but I'd not actually like it because I'm gay but my mates at the strip club don't know and socially pressured me to do it??



It would still be in your favor, because I would be doing it for you, so you could be accepted by your peers.
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2015-06-21 19:46:01 UTC
Journey D'ark wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:


Okay but what if you were a stripper and told you to drop that top for 100mill but I'd not actually like it because I'm gay but my mates at the strip club don't know and socially pressured me to do it??



It would still be in your favor, because I would be doing it for you, so you could be accepted by your peers.

Butbutbut - I give up. Just drop it for free! :D
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#76 - 2015-06-21 20:37:06 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
OP, EVE is a harsh place. I've ganked and been ganked. As others have said, you can either turn this into a learning experience or, better yet, go find a couple of games (few hours left on the Steam sale) and play those. I recently came to the realization that just about anything in my Steam backlog yields more fun than logging into New Eden.

hey, but don't forget to pay your eve subscription !
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2015-06-21 20:39:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
Cyborg Girl86 wrote:
Both his freighter and Orca probably had zero tank and were fitted with nothing but cargo expanders and/or astronomic mods.

If you had fit these ships with proper tanks, there's no reason why you wouldn't have survived until concord shows up. Both of those ships can be fitted with monstrous tanks that out-do battleships by a lot, allowing one to repel huge waves of gankers.

You used fail-fits and didn't take out insurance. Simple as that. I'm not going to go into my usual "paranoia is good" speech because I feel its something people should know by now.

This is pretty funny if only because of the ignorance on display.

No matter your tank you are completely gankable when traveling the trade lanes.


It all starts with a mach bumping you off the gate grid. A horde of catas arrive and shoot you. As the cata pilots wait out the timer they can bring a velator in to keep you in combat if need be. Also they can take this time to lure concord off grid for the next wave. So at this point even with max tank your ship is severely damaged. You can't warp and you can't log off. All you can do is wait for the next wave to appear to finish you off.

The only thing that you can do is bring a webber alt, or avoid the area.


Catalysts are dirt cheap to fit for +650 dps. For 96m (12 catas) you can easily do 234k damage to a target in .5 space. That can easily take down a max tanked obelisk in two waves. For a total cost of about 192m.
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#78 - 2015-06-21 20:55:24 UTC
Finn McCoul wrote:
Over 2 billion in losses which our corp simply can’t afford to replace.

Kind regards
Finn McCoul


Well that corp did not deserve to live, honestly. Natural selection at work it seems.

And seriously, why come here at forums, there are other (space) games where you can play in solo or group modes (in Elite you can mine asteroids and haul them as much as you please in those modes, alone or in a group).

EvE is cut-throath game and sounds you would not have survived long, without having bigger friends, anyway.

And focus is not in PvE or mining, as it serves just as a means to get some funding for "action fun", you propably would not have liked staying here long with that attitude about losses.
Avi Shekelstien
Doomheim
#79 - 2015-06-21 21:16:43 UTC
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#80 - 2015-06-21 21:19:57 UTC
Finn,

I'm surprised that someone who has played Eve for 2 years doesn't understand what many consider the first law or first fundamental rule of the game:

Never fly what you can't afford to lose.

Ganking, ransoming, bumping - it's all allowed and encouraged, and I would have it no other way. New Eden is a dangerous place, and even in High Sec, anything can happen.

I know you feel like you've lost everything. Like your corp is doomed. All hope is lost...but, in reality, it's not. You can take this as an opportunity to learn and grow. You won't make the same mistake twice.

I urge you not to give up this easily. Yes, you lost a great deal, but don't lose out on many more fulfilling experiences in the months and years to come.

I hope you don't leave the game, but if you do, fly safe - wherever you may roam.

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