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Catastrophic Operations - 0.0 PVP & Industry Corp - Razor Alliance

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Mithandra
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#41 - 2015-06-17 13:32:35 UTC
Today Ladies and Gentlemen, you see before you a serious Mithandra. You have met whimsical Mithandra, funny Mithandra; you have even met nurturing Mithandra. Today; today it's time for Mithandra to tell it like it is, so, big girl panties on please and listen up.

We ALL know EVE is a game. It's not real life, we get that. There are some pretty intelligent people playing this game, often in important positions in the world beyond the edges of our computer screens. We all know the difference between reality and fantasy, mostly, but one thing that remains the same whether in person or via pixels is the job interview, for kid yourselves not Ladies and Gentlemen, when you apply for a corp, you are asking people to take a chance on you; to trust you with their stuff and to have their backs when the barbarian hordes are at the gate. That sounds like a job interview to me.

How you come across during the chat channel interview, and if you get that far, the Mumble/TS interview, is important.

Read the recruitment posts carefully beforehand. It the post says "Recruiting PvPrs" and you are unwilling to PvP, don't bother applying. What? you think your charm and wit will outweigh the corporations requirements? Think again Dorothy.

When you apply to a corporation, do not expect instant gratification, a recruiter at your immediate beck and call, or indeed your questions answered straight away. Part of the fun of living on an oblate rocky spheroid hurtling through space without the assistance of four huge elephants and great A'tuin the world turtle, is a little thing called time zones. Just because you are awake and active does not necessarily mean that I am. Every corporation regardless of size has some period of inactivity during the day. If your active period of participation is the juxtaposition of ours, you might be better off applying elsewhere. As the recorded voice says, "your calls are important to us". Unlike the gas company , we mean it, however be patient. The Corp is worth your forbearance.

You WILL be asked questions during the chat channel phase of the recruitment process. This is to pre filter those who cant read recruitment thread posts, or are convinced that the world revolves solely around their needs and desires. If you cant stand people questioning you, or you make MI5 (like the DIA for American readers, but with more style and fewer leaks) look like a verbose, chatty teenage girl with multiple friends and an unlimited phone contract, you will not do well in the corp voice channel. Fact.

Which brings me nicely on to the subject of voice comms. If the recruitment post stipulates "must have working mic/headphones, and mumble/ts" It means exactly what it says. It doesn't mean "microphone optional". Without a microphone, you wont get through the voice comms recruitment process for one pretty damned obvious reason; WE CANT HEAR YOU.

Moving on. You've done your research, you've answered the questions, you've even purchased a brand new gaming headset and microphone. The next stage is the Voice Comms interview. Arrange a time with the recruiter, don't just appear in our public chat channel and expect us to drop whatever we are doing to hang on your every value laden and deeply significant word. We have obligations within the game as well as out. Our time is as equally important as yours, the difference is, we are already in the corp you are trying to get in to. Do not **** us off with constant badgering and "are we there yet" type questions. Its bad enough in a car with two year olds. Do not be that two year old.

Why do we have two interviews, typed and vocal? Simple really. Its an effective method of winnowing out the pretentious , the immature, and the downright dishonest. Why do most companies follow the same sort of pattern (CV and Interview)? because it works. Its not 100%, what in life ever is, but it does work in the main.

If during the voice comms recruitment phase you are asked the same sort of questions you were asked during your typed chat, don't say something along the lines of "do I have to go through all that again?" because a) yes you do, and B) it makes you sound like a stroppy world weary, everyone is against me, 14 year old. I've been through that with my children and by the grace of god, all three of us survived the process. I do not intend to go through that again every time I log on to EVE. I'm absolutely certain my corp mates would agree with me on this point.

In summary, grow up, read the question, and don't act like a prat.

Fine words to live by.

Mithandra

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
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#42 - 2015-06-18 12:47:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Orientation briefing
Catastrophic Operations
FC- Capt Handbanana

Listen up ladies,

I stand here before you a troubled man. Did I say troubled? I meant abso frakin lutely perturbed beyond the normal acceptable boundaries of perturbed. Indeed I am looking at the wrong side of perturbed from a distance measured in light minutes. Perturbed is a distant memory. I have moved on from perturbed.

What was that? Why is your FC perturbed? The only possible reason I can think of for the presence of such total and utter dross standing in front of me during my briefing, is that the Director, YOUR Director, Spacetart does not like me. With a distinguished service record such as mine, a kill record such as mine, a chest full of medals and the bragging rights that go with them such as mine, it must be personal. It would appear that I am doomed, and if I am doomed ladies and gentlemen, you are doomed also. I will make your lives a living nightmare, for then, and only then will I find enough comfort and solace to shield my tender soul from the displeasure of my superior.

For the love of BOB, the Director must have roped the recruitment team in to help him vent his displeasure with me. I see not one but two Gallente roidbabies in front of me. Listen up ladies...... WHAT? I don't care about your plumbing roidbaby, only two types of people have long hair in my universe, girls and other girls, therefore you are both officially until shorn, girls. And I swear by the dark hairless often probed love hole of Thera, If I catch you two engaging in activities of a depraved and licentious Gallente nature, I will personally introduce you to the phenomenon of incoming friendly fire, and it won't be particularly friendly.

For those of you with a functioning set of eyeballs and an I.Q higher than an old earth squirrel, I shall introduce the two pilots standing behind me. Stardust Mina, and Heim Dal front and centre if you please. These Pilots are two of the finest Pilots I have ever flown with. They will also be acting as FCs for fleet operations. Our Alliance thinks that highly of them that they also function as official Alliance FCs. Take a good look dross. You actually think you have what it takes to fly with pilots such as they? Pilots with more kills than you have days alive? What was that?? Did I just hear the grunting incoherent mouthing's of an inbred Caldari defective?? You there what did you say? SPEAK UP!!! Did my ears just deceive me? did they report to me the impossible fact that you think that you do have what it takes? How in the name of BOB did the recruiters let someone suffering from such an acute case of terminal stupidity loose on my Corporation? I'm going to be filling in the paperwork following your death as the result of a particularly gruesome and brutal training accident for weeks. No, that was not a threat, it was a prediction. Some say I have the third sight. It has yet to lead me astray.

Your induction period will be for thirty standard days from today. For those of you who manage to avoid the unfortunate fate of being reduced to your component atoms during a high energy event, there will be cake. Cake and an I.D card with your name on it. What?? you expected more? Handholding perhaps, quiet introspective moments contemplating the nature of cherry blossoms in spring? Once you become a member of Catastrophic operations, the hard work BEGINS, never doubt that for a femtosecond. Its not about the reward, it's about the participation. In the highly unlikely event that any of you degenerates ever manage to breed, when asked in class what does your biological parenting unit do, your little homonculus will be able to stand up on their cloven hooves and vestigial tails, and say that their daddy/mommy is a Pilot in Catastrophic Operations. There, right there, that will be your moment, your validation for the pain and the sheer unadulterated suffering you have endured up to that point. Savour it.

I am now going to introduce you to the head of the human resources team. Ma,am if you would? Thank you. Dross!! ATTENTION, this lady is Yama Epona. Do NOT take liberties. No one gets to be the head of human resources without surviving a bloodbath the likes of which you only read about in historical epics. HR is brutal, unrelenting, implacable and possessed of a ruthlessness that would make any Blood Raider envious. When she asks nicely, do your utmost to ensure she stays nice. We still haven't found all of the body parts of the last vict... er interviewee to get on her bad side. How do you know if you are on her good side? Easy. Take a breath. If you can breath without blood frothing on your lips then you have managed by some miracle to stay on her good side.

Other persons of note include our Mining Director Teglon. Any jokes about people of short stature carrying pickaxes will be dealt with using extreme prejudice. You will not survive to make a second similar comment. I would introduce you to Teglon, but currently he is experiencing the tender mercies of the Medical Trauma Team. What happened wasn't pretty but it was certainly educational, in a spine-chilling I hope to BOB that never happens to me sort of way. All our best wishes for a speedy recovery go out to him, and we hope to see Teglon back in his cockpit soon. Meanwhile Selene and Bob are keeping up the good work producing the power behind the pew.

Two final pilots to mention are Col Rusty (callsign Crusty) and Mithandra. Every single corporation has a pilot who against all the odds, all the predictions, against all logic and the physical laws of the universe manage to survive. We have two such entities. Do NOT touch them. Their luck will NOT rub off on you. What does rub off may be something that you really wish had not. Look to them. Take note of what they do, then for the love of BoB do the absolute opposite.

About Face. Dismissed

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
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Dracarys.
#43 - 2015-06-19 10:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
...and further more, I will hunt you down and inflict a lifetimes worth of hurt on your filthy , diseased carcass...

Oh. I'm sorry you had to hear that dear one. I declare, sometimes getting things done around here is enough to try the patience of BOB herself.

Now come on in and take a seat. Don't be shy. I won't bite

It says here on your request form, that you are having trouble sleeping at night? Well dear, Catastrophic Operations can be stressful at times. What do you think could be causing your insomnia? is your bunk too close to the HR Office?.. oh dear I'm only joking, here take a tissue... or three. Take the box.


It's the pressure? Your FC is unforgiving of even your tiniest mistakes? Your fellow pilots are acerbic, demanding and at times downright insulting? There there. I do feel your distress, I really do. Its because they love you, you know? The saying "we hurt the ones we love" is as true now as it was before the final diaspora from old earth. We are hardest on the ones we love. Our anger is usually the result of being scared completely out of our wits.

You don't understand? Bless you, let me explain. Did you ever have a pet Fedo? You did? How cute, what was its name? Fluffy?, really? No dear it's a lovely name for a scaly completely hairless lizardy type of pet. Now did you ever lose your fedo and panic, imagining all sorts of horrible things had happened to it? You did? yes dear younger brothers can be so vile... Now did you scold your fedo when it returned? of course you did, you were angry, but the anger was just a shield to protect you from the terrible fear you experienced when you thought your poor fluffy was lost.

Its the same thing with your FC. I know it's hard to imagine an FC with empathy, but its true dear one. They rage so much to hide the pain and fear your loss would cause them.

What else is troubling you? Come now you can tell Mithandra. You are having performance issues? well dear I'm sure the medical department has something that could.... sorry? Oh..... oh dear, how silly of me. Your PvP performance issues. Not getting enough.... kills? experiencing premature ejection?.. sorry dear I couldn't resist. I find a spot of levity eases the intensity of these little counselling sessions.

This is still about your FC isn't it? DO you perchance have feelings towards your FC of a sexual nature? I mean Heim Dal is a hunk. Its not unheard of you know, and completely natural. Young virile people in close proximity for hours on end. Thoughts of a certain nature are likely to occur... No?... If you say so dear, but you know, acknowledging something is the first step towards acceptance and tranquillity? Still no?. I'm sure HR will be relieved. Another tissue? There you go.

Well, our time today is nearly up, but I think that we need to carry on with these sessions. I can help you, I really can, but you have to meet me half way dear. You have to want to heal. How about tomorrow? A Directors meeting? oh, then the next day? Alliance FC meeting? oh dear. Are you sure you are not just making excuses to avoid dealing with the root cause of your anxiety? No dear I do believe you. Who would have thought that being the CEO of Catastrophic Operations could be so stressful........

How about Sunday?

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#44 - 2015-06-20 22:12:40 UTC
Catastrophic operations, part of the Lawn alliance based in The Vale of the Silent


Looking primarily for UK,EU,US PvP pilots, but also EU Tz Industrial powerhouses (who are also not averse to PvP)

Have a chat with a recruiter in "cat0p public"

See you there

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#45 - 2015-06-21 10:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Its Fathers day today, so a warm Happy Fathers Day to all those of you fathers who planned for children, and also to those of you who didn't and failed to observe range safety.

Kids are a blessing even when we curse them :)


I'm not usually "allowed" on eve on a Sunday, but as today is an important day, I've received special dispensation from my significant other.

Have you noticed how many women complain about their men? Or even men in general? He doesn't pick up his clothes, he leaves the seat up, he is bone idle and lazy, he wont do anything around the house? Men are misogynist pigs with one thing on their mind, men will sleep with anything, men don't respect women. The list goes on.

Well, today, I the Marvellous Mithandra will explain what I like to call my "XY chromosomal autonomic networking, biological imperative and sociological reward/punishment via behavioural modification paradigm" theory of Man

Lets break it down a little in to headings

XY chromosomal autonomic networking

biological imperative

Sociological reward/punishment via behavioural modification.


What on earth are you going on about now Mithandra, all those big words are hurting my grey cells, so much so that I feel a strong urge to go out and drag the first woman I meet back to my cave in an attempt to assert my domination as an Alpha male. Please resist that urge, society tends to frown on that sort of behaviour now, although between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago that sort of behaviour guaranteed gene diversification and a population explosion that ensured in a geologically short period of time, that Man would become the dominant species on this planet. Now it will guarantee you a term in a room that locks from the outside.

Lets cover my topics in a more logical order than the way I have arranged them in the title of my theory.


Biological Imperative

First up. Men and women are different in oh so many interesting ways, however the main difference isn't actually our physical attributes. It's in the way our brains work.

Back in the heady halcyon days of the caveman, women had kids and looked after the cave. Now, before the ladies start in on me, it wasn't just about cleaning the cave, I mean rock, straw, fur, how hard was it right? No, women were the protectors of the nest. They had to protect the young and each other from predators, they had to prepare the food, gather the fruit, nuts and berries and ensure that knowledge was passed down to the young. Each woman not only had to do that, but she had to guard her "man" from other women and girls. If she lost her man, there was a fair chance she and possibly her offspring would starve come winter. Continuously she had to keep an eye on five or six things at the same time; children, her man, the cave, its surroundings, her competitors and possible external threats. There's a reason the modern woman's brain is so highly developed for multitasking, 100,000 years of continuously scanning, analysing and carrying out "threat" assessments.

Now moving on to that much maligned creature, the Man. Men do not multitask well. Fact. try it out. Ask your Mother/Girlfriend/wife significant other to randomly talk to you while you are watching your favourite program. I'll bet you right here right now, that a) you will become irritated, b) you wont remember half of what she said, or indeed what happened in your program. Women complain that Men do not listen. Well, that is a fact as well. If a man is concentrating on the task at hand, he gets both tunnel vision and tunnel hearing. External sources of information are closed out for the duration of the task at hand. The reason for this is simple. Hunting prey. If a hunter could be easily distracted by other sights and sounds, he would lose focus on the task at hand, hunting prey, and go hungry. It wasn't just the problem of going hungry though. If a hunter didn't bring meat to the cave, he could be ostracised by the clan, women would not lay with him, he would be unable to find a mate, or someone to care for him when the prey won instead of him. So over the course of the same 100,000 years that women were perfecting multitasking, men were developing a single minded goal orientated mind-set.

So. No matter how civilised we have become in the eye blink that is recent recorded history, we still have the survival imperatives of our distant ancestors and 100,000 years of evolution and survival of the fittest weighing us down.


XY chromosomal autonomic networking

Put simply this means that the more numerous and complex the demands on the Man becomes, the more confused he becomes. Mens brains are wired for simple responses to sensory input. Once again, hunting prey. Give a man, 5 or 6 conflicting issues at the same time and the chances are he will go into melt down or to put in to eve terms, rage quit. Give a woman the same input, and she will prioritise by threat level, then by benefit to her offspring and then herself. Next she will come up with two or three strategies to ensure that she maintains her position, her moral authority and lower that of her competition for available resources, be that food, standing, warmth and light, or suitable Male breeding stock.


Sociological reward/punishment via behavioural modification.

As we move forward in the ever changing sociological landscape, expectations of acceptable behaviour change. Women, quite rightly, have become equal and some would say superior to men; women usually, but I digress. They have for a number of years been attempting to rewrite the wetware of their sons and partners in an attempt to create Man 2.0, a kinder, thoughtful, insightful version of himself, almost in fact a replica of herself but in XY format instead of XX. Unfortunately a large part of the male brain is hard coded, Read only memory if you will.

continuing ..

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
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Dracarys.
#46 - 2015-06-21 11:23:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
continued..

So, mothers have long ago perfected the art of psychological warfare, and passed that skillset down to their daughters.

Think back to your childhood.

If you did something stupid, your father would give you a smack round an available bodypart. Job done. Behavioural modification via pain. If I do that again, pain will happen. I do not like pain therefore I will not do it again. Usually.

Your mother however would open her bag of tricks and shower you with guilt, long suffering expressions, constant reminders , icy silences. You've all been there and suffered through that. Eventually she gets her own way via emotional torture. Man, she makes me feel like **** when I do something stupid or don't do what she wants. Anything for a quiet life.

Now, your significant other has an impressive array of psychological terror weapons at her disposal; some inherited from her long departed ancestors, some from her mother, aunts and female older cousins, and some that were born deep in the dark recesses of her own psyche.

Mostly these tools revolve round the knowledge that a) Man likes a quiet life when he's in the cave and b) man is a warm blooded mammal and is a horny devil.

So on top of the guilt, long suffering expressions, constant reminders or icy silences, we have the use of sex as a behavioural modification tool. Sex is awarded when she gets her own way, and denied when the Man does something incredibly stupid like not doing what she wants when she wants it. Add that to the fact that modern society usually awards the cave, property and a stipend to the spouse in any separation between the two contractually obligated partners, Man is on a loser unless he capitulates completely to the whims of his overlord... or rather over-mistress. This secondary programming conflicts with his evolutionary programming, and errors can and will occur, including complete system shutdown.

What women want from men is changing faster than mans ability to evolve. Its a fact.

A point.

A woman is hurt by something a female friend has done. The female friend will pick up on it without being told. They will talk it out , reach a solution, hurt feelings will be healed, and connections remade.

A woman is hurt by her man. She won't tell him why, because he should know. Her friends would know, why doesn't he?. Meanwhile the Man asks his partner what's wrong, she says "nothing is wrong". She wont tell him, he should know right?. Well no, wrong. A woman's female friends have had the same period of time as she has had to develop her telepathy. Man is still floundering around in the dark, beating the cave floor with a club. Its going to take more than 100 years to offset the experiences of the last 100,000



In conclusion.


Men are not complete bastards. What they are , is confused by the contradictory requirements of their own core evolutionary programming, and the programming carried out by their female relatives in the first instance, and that carried out by their partner in the second instance. Add on top the changing societal expectations and requirements placed on man, and its a wonder Man has not self destructed.

If your husband fails to pick up his socks, its down to the fact that his mother (a fellow female) has failed in her task of programming her son, and has passed the problem on to you.

If your partner is grouchy and out of sorts. You can either stop confusing the poor schmuk by asking too much of his sequential processing ability, or just sleep with him. You'll be amazed how much more malleable he then becomes.

BUT, above all, have a little patience with men. They are trying.. Mostly

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#47 - 2015-06-21 23:05:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Well I had another wall of text for you, but it fell in to the compression array. I couldn't be bothered typing it again so here it is, a wall of text, compressed:-

BUMP





Read the first page of this thread.

Then join channel "cat0p public"

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#48 - 2015-06-22 19:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
And back on the treadmill....

There I was , doodling on a piece of paper and listing what I thought were good qualities for pilots in Catastrophic Operations to have...

My initial list was somewhat extreme...

1. Must not require sleep.
2. Must be able to fly all current doctrine ships
3. Must be able to fly ships that might become doctrine in the future
4. Must be able to fly ships, that due to potential nerfing of current or future doctrine ships, might feature in fleets at some time or other
5. Must have a legal age female relative they would be willing to part with..
6. Must not be an asshat
7. Must laugh at the CEO's jokes
8. Even outnumbered they must never lose a ship and sully the holy KB.
9. Must be online 23.5/7
10.Must be on mumble when online

As I said, that was my initial list..

Then I thought, Mithandra my love, no one can be as marvellous as you. So with compassion and a felt pen, I set about creating a proper list of requirements; commandments if you will. So ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the 10 Cat0p commandments. I didn't have any stone tablets to engrave them on, which is just as well. The Christian Church might well have sued my sorry arse for copyright infringement.



1. Thou shall not be a total Asshat

The first commandment is fairly easy to understand.
Banter, repartee, witticisms, poking of the fun and light hearted interaction are all examples of good clean fun.

Undermining the Leadership, singling a pilot out for abuse, awoxing fellow corp members, corp theft, logging off before a fleet fight then logging back on five minutes after it's finished, not taking part in corp activities.. those are examples of asshattedness.


2. Thou shalt be on mumble

Once again , it's self explanatory. If you are online in eve, you must be on mumble. You can sit in a quiet channel if the current topic of corporation conversation is turning your hair grey, but on mumble thou shalt be.


3. Thou shalt be able to fly some if not all of the current doctrine ships

Theres no point applying to join if you cant fleet up in the required ships, and for gods sake, don't turn up in, or ask to join fleet in a drake. The FC's can be quite acerbic over the Drake question.


4. Thou shalt provide a full API

Yes I know, debate rages on about the provision of full API's to Corporations. After long and thoughtful debate about this subject, Cat0p leadership has made the following proclamation:-

"Without a full and unequivocal API, no tortured soul shall be redeemed or enter the hallowed halls of Cat0p, but shall instead burn for eternity in the ranks of Pandemic Horde, or possibly Mordus Angels... whichever fate is worse."

Supply a full API, your salvation depends upon it


5. Thou shalt not disappear from Eve without letting the CEO know how long you will be gone.

Again self explanatory. If you are going to be away from EvE for longer than a few days, let the CEO or HR know, otherwise you may come back to find that you have been purged from the ranks of the enlightened.


6. Thou shalt PVP

Don't join a PvP corporation if you have no intention of joining in with the pew. Your lack of participation will be noted, and if it continues following a warning, you will be cast down like Lucifer, stripped of wings, immortality and honour.


7. Thou shalt not embarrass the corp in alliance ops or alliance chat.

If you have to ask a stupid question, or a question that might be considered stupid, ask it in corp chat. Do not **** about on alliance comms during a fleet operation, and don't lose expensive ships stupidly.


8. Thou shalt have what is needed, where it is needed, when it is needed.

It is up to each pilot to have the right ship in the right location in time for Ops. Ops are pinged. Listen to the Ping, the ping is your friend.


9. Thou shalt take part in corporation activities with a glad heart.

No frakking whining when you are asked to take part in a pos bash, or bump forum threads, or aid in recruiting, or take part in the rarer than rocking horse poop mining op to help provide the corp with assets. Give freely of your time and cheer and you shall be rewarded ten fold.*

*As with all statements involving reward, its hard to pin down the actual value of the initial investment, which makes multiplying it 10 fold somewhat problematic.


10. Thou shalt provide to the corporation , one female relative of legal age and slutty demeanour.

Obviously not. What do you take us for?..... really? Oh so you have been on our comms channel then.



As with all lists, mine may not survive unedited, so it should be considered a working document, and not, HA , set in stone.



Its a good starting point though.


If you feel the icy fingers of eternal damnation dancing up and down your spine, give cat0ps a try. Salvation is an API away.


Join channel cat0p public, and praise BOB, you too could soon be among the chosen.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#49 - 2015-06-23 22:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Unusually for me, I am at a loss for words.

Why is that Mithandra? normally your posts are loquacious, thought evoking, informative and fun. What could have happened to render you so bereft of words?

Well my kind hearted darlings, I've just spent what felt like the whole of eternity in the recruitment channel. According to my corporation though, it was only an hour or two. How can we reconcile my observed time, with the recorded time of my corp mates?

The only logical answer is that the recruitment channel must contain a singularity.

I'm fairly sure that the amount of time dilation is the square of the mass of the channel at any particular time, multiplied by real time

Mass = Number of Recruiters in channel

We can construct a simple equation

Where :-

T is observed duration of time
M is number of recruiters in channel
R is actual duration of time in minutes

T=(M^2*R)

Observed time equals number of recruiters in channel squared multiplied by actual time.

to go a step further we could introduce:-

C = number of people looking to join a corporation

our equation then becomes

T=((M^2*R)/C^2)

or Observed time equals number of recruiters in channel squared multiplied by actual time, and then divided by the square of the number of people looking to join a corporation.

so for M =100, R is 50 C =5

we get an observed time of 13 ish days for every 50 minutes in channel. Trust me that sounds about right

So for M=10 , R is 50 and C =100

We get an observed time of half a minute for every 50 minutes in channel. There never seems to be enough time to reply to all the people looking for a corp, so this also sounds about right.

Finally

for M=100, R=50 and C =100

Equal numbers of recruiters and people looking to be recruited cancel each other out and produce an observed time of 50 minutes for every 50 minutes of real time. Interesting.

This theory is a work in progress, so anyone finding holes in it, please feel free to evemail me. Together we can solve this conundrum.



Meanwhile. Join catastrophic operations. The best move you will ever make.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#50 - 2015-06-24 10:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Good morning thread followers.

Welcome to the dark recesses of a) The recruitment thread, and b) my mind

I was eating my toast this morning, when a thought occurred to me. Bread, like so many other things in life is taken for granted, but exactly how was bread invented? I mean, look at the ingredients for a start.



You've got a grain that takes time to grow and become ready to harvest. The grain is then mashed down to a powder, which is no trivial exercise, and time consuming.

You've got salt

Water

Butter, the making of which is also no trivial exercise, and time consuming.

Yeast, which could have happened by accident, as yeast occurs naturally on grain



On top of the unlikely ingredients, you have a process that is also unlikely and time consuming.


You mix all the ingredients together, and knead them , then you cover them and let them rest, then you knead them again, then rest, then knead then rest, then stick in or on a heat source until brown.

You end up with a product that if not eaten quickly goes stale and hard.


Hard work indeed as anyone who has made bread by hand will tell you, for a product with such a short shelf life.



So, what on earth made the inventor ,some 30,000 years ago, because ladies and gentlemen, that's how long bread has been around, decide to lump all these ingredients together, spend hours mixing and kneading, and then throw the resultant blob on to a heat source?

It defies logic.


I mean what possible combination of events could have given someone the idea for bread??

What I am certain of in my own mind is that the inventor was female, because a) their minds work in mysterious ways and b) no cave man would have taken the amount of time bread requires to make away from hitting things on the head with his stone club.

So as I munch on my toast pondering the imponderable, I have to add another item to my list of why women are great. Toast.


I suppose I'd better mention Catastrophic Operations somewhere in this recruitment post bump. Soooo

Catastrophic Operations.

Full of people almost as "complicated" as me. Who would have thought that such a disparate bunch of unlikely "ingredients" would have "risen" to become the PvP "staple" they are today.

Join today. Don't let this opportunity pass you by if you want to avoid a "stale" experience in EVE

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Jimtom
Fancypants Inc
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2015-06-26 19:30:13 UTC
I dont have the way with words like Mithandra so this is just a little bump post Lol
Yama Epona
Catastrophic Operations
#52 - 2015-06-27 17:02:38 UTC
Eve Online is a game.....

Games were made so you can have fun........

Joining CAT0P will ensure your money is well spent! Big smile

~ Recruitment Officer ~ Catastrophic Operations ~ YouTube Channel: Yama Epona

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#53 - 2015-06-28 15:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Yama Epona wrote:
Eve Online is a game.....

Games were made so you can have fun........

Joining CAT0P will ensure your money is well spent! Big smile


Fine words there from Yama.

Fun, and words. Fun with words. Hmmmmmmm


Words............... fascinating things, especially "English words"


English is like the super absorbent tissue of languages. It finds a word it likes, sucks it in, messes around with it a bit, and hey presto , the word count in the Oxford English dictionary jumps by one.

England. We, the English, a proud Island seafaring nation have invaded or been invaded by pretty much everyone within sight or sound of a body of water. On our travels, apart from collecting stuff that didn't belong to us, we brought back words. Invaders tried in vain to convert us to their languages, only to give up after realising that unbeknownst to medical professionals pre 20th century, the English possess a gene that turns off their ability to learn other languages. Truth. If you have an English friend who speaks more than a few words of any other language but English, view them with suspicion, for they are probably cuckoos - birds left in an English nest by a foreign family.

Being an inventive people however, we took the words we liked the sound of and Englandified them. Yes I know "Englandified" is not a word, but it should be. Unlike other countries , for example , the French, we don't breast beat over the introduction of a new word. We don't worry about the possible dilution of English culture by adopting foreign words. We have no equivalent of the Académie française (French Academy), the ultimate authority for new words in the French language. English is a Bastard language, that knows it's parents were never married, probably never loved each other , and quite possibly were not too happy with their offspring either. English doesn't care. English is happy to embrace new words, recycle old words and give them new meaning. English is ever evolving , ever new, and extremely confusing to the uninitiated, It is a vast scintillating ever changing gem of a language, and it is our gift to the world.

World , you are welcome, no thanks necessary.



Come join Catastrophic operations
We embrace all pilots (including the Welsh)

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#54 - 2015-06-29 06:32:55 UTC
Bump

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#55 - 2015-06-30 10:39:09 UTC
A somewhat emotive topic today boys and girls.


We've all heard them, the whiners demanding more "content"; the "leet" PvPrs demanding more "content" by which they mean PvP. Fleets are formed, roams are organised, but they still complain about lack of "content" because no one wanted to fight the 50 man Ishtar/Logi fleet they were part of, or the scummy enemy saw their gang and hot dropped it.

The enemy are scum, they won't pick a fair fight. The enemy are scum, they won't fight out numbered. The enemy are scum, they blew my ratting ship up. The enemy are scum, their ratting ship got away from me and wouldn't offer a fight. The FC is shite because he couldn't get a fight. There's not enough frig/cruiser/hac/covop/hotdrop fleets.

Please.

PvPrs in null have to be the singularly most whiny bunch of slope browed emotionally challenged Neanderthals known to man. PEWBears if you will. I know. I am one, if barely adequate in the role.


This game is about Player vs Player, in all its infinite glory; shooting each other, scamming each other, playing the market against each other, joining together to shoot other people who have joined together in the face. Its a cold cruel universe inside the silicon brain of tranquillity. The thing to remember, as many a General has been reminded of at the worst possible moment, is that the enemy have their own plans, their own agenda, their own goals.

There is isk involved in 0.0. Big Isk. Frikkin huge amounts of isk. Scrooge Mcduck-esque freighter containers laden to the ceiling with isk. ISK. Alliances are about the ISK. Isk enables them to fight, to replace losses, to control their area, to make more isk. Around it goes. The very nature of alliances forces them to hold huge swathes of space, to use it for themselves, or to deny it to the enemy. The reasoning being, if I'm not getting the isk, I need to make sure the enemy doesn't get the isk, for if they do they may grow beyond my ability to counteract them, thus putting what I do hold at risk.

With huge areas of space to control, power projection becomes a problem. Turn up with too much, and no one wants to fight you, turn up with too little and you lose your ship, usually your pod and quite often, the system you are in . Show me a CEO who isn't concerned about his killboard stats in 0.0 and I'll show you a renter. Alliance blob warfare has become the standard in EVE almost since the games inception. Sov holding Alliance leaders are traditionally risk averse, because of the amount of isk and property involved.

Current Sov mechanics are not conducive to the type of PvP the SBN's (slope browed Neanderthals) want. Its a fact. They complain about shooting POS towers, but love the srp. They complain about forming up in huge fleets, but also complain when the enemy rolls through and blows their infrastructure to crap. They complain when they can't find a fight, and complain when a fight finds them unprepared. They complain because if the alliance leadership would alter fleet/ship doctrine to the one they are proposing, the increase of 1ms in speed and the 0.5% increase in agility would make the fleet invincible. EFT. Some people spend to much time on it and need to get a life. Fitting warriors are an annoying subset of the SBNs. Luckily for me, my corp only has one or two fitting warriors, because when I log on I want to play, not listen to four hours of discussions about the benefits of exp over kin, and how to squeeze the last erg of fitting power out of a destroyer/cruiser/whatever.

PVP for PVPs sake is a sterile wasteland. It cannot survive on its own. All the stuff you fly/shoot has to be produced. SBN's get sulky when there's nothing to buy locally, yet they look down on the Industrial guys (who by the way can be just as whiny as the SBN's, if not more so). Industrial guys cannot produce if the area is not secure. To secure the area you need a fleet, a bigger fleet than the enemy. To build a fleet, you need to secure the area so that you can harvest its resources. Round it goes.

Alliances are stuck with the problem that their members want to shoot stuff, but they need to secure resources so that they can shoot stuff. To do so requires turning up on the field with more than the enemy, and said enemy more than likely wont fight, because they also don't want to lose their ships for no gain. It requires shooting at stuff that can't shoot back to deny the enemy a revenue stream. It requires long boring patrol roams looking for targets who may or may not even be there. It requires strong industrial presence to produce all the stuff the alliance needs to , well, produce stuff. Alliance PvP is often long, drawn out , boring and necessary.

Fozzie Sov. Lots of whining about that. CCP are (insert expletive here) Its just over the horizon now, and approaching rapidly. Its going to happen; it's going to shake up the very fabric and nature of EVE. That's a good thing. Alliances have gortten too comfortable, and Nullbears have gotten too entitled. The game has become about the isk, not the risk, and certainly not about the fun. Will Fozzie sov cure all EVEs ills? heh, probably not because what CCP proposes, the player base usually opposes, and they actively look for ways to break it. There will be interesting times ahead, and maybe the SBNs will finally get the "type" of PVP (which changes depending on who you talk too) they want.


So, Mithandra. If you have so low an opinion of Nullbears or as you call them SBNs, why are you in a Null sec Sov Holding PVP Corporation such as Catastrophic Operations? Well my little curious Georges let me explain.


cont

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#56 - 2015-06-30 10:45:04 UTC
cont from above

Of all the Corporations I have been in on my main and my alts - oh come now it can't be a surprise I have alts almost as Marvellous as myself, we all have alts - this corporation actually manages to merge all of the various elements, PVP, Industry, ISK making in to one homogenous whole.

The Indy guys PVP with enthusiasm, the PVPrs (after minimal SBN behaviour) help Indy guys when necessary. The CEO isn't a complete chopper, and the other Directors have their eyes firmly fixed on keeping the guys and girls of the Corp happy. We get listened to, and often can get the Directors to go along with our nefarious plans.

We are relatively small, just 70 odd members, PVP centric, win lose or get totally destroyed, and we cover most of the major time zones, so as a corp we are pretty well set up to weather Fozzie Sov and its aftermath, majorragequitgate.


Don't take my word for it. Join us in channel cat0p public for a chat. A chat about anything, or nothing, or you joining the corp. Its all good. We like chatting.

Come Chat.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#57 - 2015-07-03 09:18:42 UTC
Apologies for the lack of a bump for a few days, but I've been a bit busy.

OK, busy and I forgot. Shame on me.

Shame on my Corp for not spotting that I've been lax. Am I the only one reading this thread? Apparently so.



Apart from their lack of thread reading , Catastrophic Operations Pilots are usually involved in all aspects of Corp, Alliance and Imperium life.

Cat0ps as a Corporation is more often than not in the top three for participation in Alliance Operations, which is no mean achievement considering we are one of the smaller corps in Lawn.

Small but perfectly formed.


Give us a call, contact a recruiter, and change your eve experience for the better.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Heim Dal
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#58 - 2015-07-10 12:20:49 UTC
So many bumps but i believe there are still souls waiting for salvation, somewhere in the depts of nullsec. So we'll never stop searching for pilots we can help. Bump, as usual. Bump, let the sound of the word wake up the lonely and sorrow. Bump, the drums of cat0p will never stop. Bump, join our pub channel 'cat0p public'. Salvation awaits.
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#59 - 2015-07-13 23:14:45 UTC
bump

join

win

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#60 - 2015-07-15 22:09:41 UTC
As I look at the blank page in front of me, I wonder what on earth I could write down that would make you, any of you, see Catastrophic Operations the way I do. If you could look through my eyes, or as they say, walk a mile in my shoes, it would be easy. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your socio-political views, people don't come in standard one size fits all packages. Everyone expects to be treated as a special case; EVE pilots practically demand it. In the case of EVE, This makes running a Corporation an exercise in herding cats.

From my own observations in EVE, pilots are usually from one (or more) of several distinct groupings:-

Military... either serving or ex military.

I fit in to this category along with quite a few of my corp. Military guys usually like a clear cut chain of command, buddies they can rely on, rules they can follow. Its all about knowing where you stand, who you can trust, and helping your corpies.


Information Technology Guys

I.T guys usually have low idiot tolerance levels, and their definition of idiot is anyone other than themselves or their close knit group. I also fall in to this group, as one of my major roles during the 24 years I served, was I.T Systems Management. Its amazing I was never court-martialled due to my rather acerbic approach to User Support. It was noted by one or two of the more witty of my peers, that I could tap-dance across a freshwater lake without getting my feet wet, and that if I was dropped in a barrel of shite, I'd come up smelling of roses. I chose to take comments like that as compliments, though honesty compels me to admit that they were probably not entirely meant as such.

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Every Corp has some. You know the guy who will argue to the point of insanity, the various ways he could improve everything in EVE if he was just given the chance. The guy who will argue for hours on end about the best way to fit an interceptor, destroyer, other ship, to squeeze just one more half point of speed out of it. The guy who looks at spreadsheets with an emotion bordering on carnal lust. The guy who will argue for days about the smallest point of order, corporation rule, alliance rule, or game mechanic. That's also me. If something is wrong to me, it hurts. I'm not talking pure physical pain. I'm talking that annoying itch in your back you cant reach, the sound of a dripping tap, or a full bladder that you need to empty but cant. Its probably why I tend to cause my Corporation Diplomats heartburn and anxiety as often as I do. If I don't like something, I literally cannot let it lie.

Managers and people in other positions of authority

That's me currently. My corp also has a number of other people in high flying, well paid jobs. These people tend to go one of two ways. They either gravitate into positions within the corp where they can put their organisational skills to good use, or they go haywire and shoot stuff in the face with extreme prejudice repeatedly. Its probably why we have good numbers in Alliance fleets. Its stress relief following the work day. Me I try to organise, to create, to contribute, but I also shoot stuff in the face. I have issues.. a lot of issues. God, do I have issues.

Self Centred Egoists

You all know people like this. I know people like this and at times I am a person like this. Issues remember?. These are the people who unless it directly benefits themselves, will not take part or contribute. No matter how hard you try , you cant weed them out.


There are a few other groups but considering the above heading, I'm not particularly interested in listing them as I don't belong to them. Self Centred Egoist with issues remember?


So to recap, I, an ex military self centred egoist type, with a background in I.T, suffering from clinically recognised OCD and currently working as a General Manager have managed to find a corp where I am tolerated, where people usually don't get too bent out of shape when I do something irritating, rude, downright stupid, or cause a diplomatic incident. There's not many corps out there that give you a sense of actually belonging, of actually wanting to improve yourself and to contribute. I managed to find a home in Catastrophic Operations; its not beyond the bounds of credibility that you could too.

Don't get me wrong, Cat0ps is not all sweetness and light, marshmallows and pony rides, but its like being part of a pretty dysfunctional family that gets on each others nerves now and then, but when the chips are down and you need support, help, or a wingman, the Cat0p guys are there for you. Bro's and FemBro's. It's pretty cool.


The focus of Catastrophic Operations is PVP, but post Fozzie sov, we are not averse to recruiting industrial types who also like shooting stuff in the face. I've listed the virtues we like in recruits somewhere above this post in the thousands of words I've typed for previous bumps. Go have a read. Scratch that OCD itch.

Bottom line. In all my time in EVE, Catastrophic Operations is by far the best. Sorry for the treacle guys, but it's true. You put up with me,; that alone gets you nominated for canonisation and sainthood.



Join the frikkin corp. See what I'm talking about. Never look back.

peace out.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community