EVE General Discussion

Hello

By traveling a lot through highsec lots of red pods from the gankings can be seen, like in Niarja, Uedama etc.

Can those pods be destroyed without loosing the ship to CONCORD? or is actually ganking supported and encouraged by CCP? since CONCORD don't shoot pods (from missioning can be understandable but police should be different)

Becasue in the current rules/features/gameplay the game isn't fun:
In this case industrials (people hard working for ISK) loose more than gaining and gankers ("outcasts") gain more than loosing. At least the gankers should loose their implants each time a bad act is performed as punishment (which actually isn't near as enogh).

P.S. sorry if anyone is offended.

If they are -5 or more you can kill them in high sec without concords wrath. They are a free kill.... IF you can catch them, pods are very hard to catch if not on autopilot.

guess ralph got offended.

and yes, it should be much harder for murder in highsec, or much more punished (like all ISK and assets are taken - e.g. state/federal police in rl = CONCORD in game; and player corp banned and hunted in highsec for all eternity - one for all and all for one)

anyway
so then when i see a fighting and CONCORD pops a ship, i`m free to destroy any remaining pod without CONCORD hostility even if that pod has security status of 10, right?

Best we don't underestimate the enjoyment factor of the people out to ruin your day. And I'm sure making them accountable for the crimes with the current system is more than enough! Afterall, everything in EVE has consequence.

It's like losing their expendable, easily replacable ships and gaining a modest penalty in security rating is not punishment enough! Think of the gankers! Those poor things...

Ganking can be easily prevented, and NOT doing so should have consequences, too. I think ganking and it counter-mesures are quite well balanced (no, I'm not a ganker, but I haul stuff through HS all the time and yes, I have been ganked, but each time it was my own fault - to greedy, to careless or just too ignorant).

That being said, the crime watch article has been linked above, it states:

Try again.

that crime stuff is mostly about ships, for pods is only "Pod killing a capsuleer with an active Suspect Timer will not result in security status loss or CONCORD response."
so yeah, i`m unsure since i cannot see his timer

Ganking is not really punished (as a "ganker" job, security doesn't matter), but if its encouraged, maybe highsec should just be renamed to a more fitting description
Maybe a "Stadard Ganking Procedure" career agent should be added

Also, fit and autopilot doesn't do much as ganking occurs:
- if they're bored
- for showoff (maybe initiate into ganking corp)
- for the lol
- hate the skin of the ship, or character name or whatever
- fit test, concord warp time test, etc (maybe)
- when its profitable
- when they sell the same items (so less market competition)
(at least thats what i read)
So they gank even if didn't scan before: ah, look its a wreathe, lets see its contents (and the above reasons)

Furthermore, maybe cargo optimizers instead of bulkheads have to be fit (not gonna enter in details of the haulers stories)


P.S. Irrelevant answer (or i just dont get the pichfork part) = ralph offended

This thread is going places.

To answer your question, ganker pods share the GCC their ship had before CONCORD repossessed it.

To touch on some of these other points:

CONCORD is not the police. CONCORD is more like a repo man. Do crime? Get your ship repossessed.

If the industrial pilot works so hard for his ISK, why does he not work hard to protect it? Scouting, checking systems for recent losses, and proper tanking isn't all that hard. If the ganker puts effort in to kill you, you should put effort in to prevent it.

Gankers are already punished pretty hard, if you ask me. Global timers, killrights against them, ship loss, security status loss. Four punishments. No need to make it even harder. The only punishment an industrial player suffers from, stems from laziness or being unprepared.

All that being said, if you do prepare for a gank as best you can, and still explode like a pinata with gold plated firecrackers inside, kudos to you for trying, and kudos to the gankers for putting the extra work in!

My 2 kredits.

Concord are not the police, they are judge, jury and executioner for a very limited number of offences, however like the police they're always late to the party and you can often bribe them to look the other way.

Ganking is a part of life in Eve, deal with it.

Calling him English or taking a nip from his bottle of life and replacing it with water would probably do it

i accidentally made half saxon children so iv had to concede even that