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Request for the CSM to ask CCP for information

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#1 - 2015-06-14 11:37:21 UTC
Are there any plans to update the EVE Launcher into something that can reliably start the client? If so, what kind of timescale are we looking at here?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2015-06-14 12:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
It will be interesting to see what comes from this.

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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-06-18 18:47:04 UTC
I put it in the book of things to ask. fair question

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2015-06-18 19:03:03 UTC
Much appreciated, Mike. If we must have a launcher, as apparently we do, then it really needs to be very reliable. Which it definitely isn't right now.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#5 - 2015-06-19 11:26:55 UTC
We're talking with them about the launcher. I have a list of, umm, requests (demands is probably a touch too strong.) for updates for the launcher, wrt use with multiboxing.

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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#6 - 2015-06-19 20:07:35 UTC
Please also ask if it is possible to access SiSi next to TQ through the launcher, if not currently implemented Cool

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#7 - 2015-07-05 08:41:46 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
We're talking with them about the launcher. I have a list of, umm, requests (demands is probably a touch too strong.) for updates for the launcher, wrt use with multiboxing.


Have you had any reply as yet?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#8 - 2015-07-05 13:42:54 UTC
None I can talk about.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#9 - 2015-07-21 18:12:28 UTC
3rd day in a row when I've got home and the launcher does not in fact want to launch a client.

Just in case CCP are still puzzling for reasons why log in numbers are down, have they considered that maybe **** like this is a contributing factor?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#10 - 2015-08-06 03:23:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
3rd day in a row when I've got home and the launcher does not in fact want to launch a client.

Just in case CCP are still puzzling for reasons why log in numbers are down, have they considered that maybe **** like this is a contributing factor?


Out of completely idle curiosity, are you trying to run EVE from a vanilla user account, or from an account with admin access?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2015-08-06 05:47:33 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
3rd day in a row when I've got home and the launcher does not in fact want to launch a client.

Just in case CCP are still puzzling for reasons why log in numbers are down, have they considered that maybe **** like this is a contributing factor?


Out of completely idle curiosity, are you trying to run EVE from a vanilla user account, or from an account with admin access?


Admin

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Circumstantial Evidence
#12 - 2015-08-13 19:45:04 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
We're talking with them about the launcher. I have a list of, umm, requests (demands is probably a touch too strong.) for updates for the launcher, wrt use with multiboxing.
oh please yes please: multiple account logins on a single screen, resulting in [Launch: account1] [Launch: account2] ....

Separately, if 2-factor auth is considered more secure.... could it extend the launcher login token's Time To Live?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2015-08-13 20:04:13 UTC
Hell, even managing two log ins is a wholly unnecessary pain in the arse with the current launcher.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2015-08-19 07:25:45 UTC
"Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong"

I can, of course, connect just fine without using the launcher.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#15 - 2015-08-19 11:41:06 UTC
quick question: Which version number is your launcher?

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#16 - 2015-08-19 16:13:58 UTC
i'll add, coudl you ask if its possible to run an tq client and sisi client at the same time? cause that limitation kinda bugs the hell out of me

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2015-08-19 17:54:28 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
quick question: Which version number is your launcher?


Today it is v.2.2.950061

Today it works v0v

But honestly this constant roulette is bloody draining. Will it work? Will it the launch button just stay greyed out? Will it let me think it's going to work and then yank the ball away like Lucy does to Charlie Brown? I have no idea what it will do when I come home after a horrible day at work, and no way to tell when I start my PC, and no idea what to do when it acts up, and even less will to deal with this worthless piece of ****.

I'm not a programmer, so until now I naively assumed that setting a button to reliably call a specific .exe file in a defined location was a fairly easy coding task. But since 4 years of - what I assume is - sustained effort hasn't yielded such a result, I'm forced to conclude it isn't.

I strongly recommend that CCP go back to first principles and have an open table rethink on what the launcher is supposed to be for and what the "user stories" are supposed to be. Because 3 times in the last 10 days, my Launcher user story has been "**** it, I'm not dealing with this ****" and instead of playing EVE I've gone and done something else.

Multi client support would be super sweet. Skill queue visbility would be great. Single sign on would be just lovely. But most of all I don't want it to make me feel tired and annoyed and walk away from the PC.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2015-08-28 09:18:44 UTC
Another day, another failure of the launcher. It seems to spawn the client, but doesn't get as far as character selection. Just sits there with the spinny blue circle "processing bulk date" or whatever. Client v2.2.950061

Logging in directly through eve.exe works fine, needless to say.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016