Ships & Modules

Forums still have a great deal of aggressiveness. Depending on the individual, also some hostility.
I personally love the SNI for mission running. It's not optimal, but as a pilot who's heavily invested into missiles I find it adequate for my needs. Plus it looks sexy.
Would I ever shoot at a mission flipper while driving mine? Oh hell no.
Yes, the RS is a beast that can out dps the SNI, so can the RNI. It's just a matter of taste for some folks.

This is a new term for me. What are mission flippers, and how do they operate?

EDT: NVM. I am assuming you mean can flippers?

TYVM. This is the information I am looking for (though didn't know how to ask for it.)

From your statement, I now know that doing half *** fits is never applicable. So I need to fit specifically for PvP and expect less than stellar PvE results. I am now resolved to activating my alt accounts so that I can form anti-gank teams (until such time I find like minded peeps to team with.)

I still want to fly a scorpion hull, but need to fit so that i can reliably expect a specific counter....that I will counter.

Loss is inevitable. And I intend to lose a lot, yet (hopefully) learning much intel for a suitable counter attack.

I stand by my premise of, What is EVE without enemies? I will find many.

I'm in that spot where I want my fav ship to have cake and eat it too. I chalk it up to returning player fervor. I'm researching alternatives for an anti gank (pvp) mission running set up (I am currently eyeballing the Golem). I think my expectations for the SNI are beyond reasonable and need to push it back to silent, in the shadowed corner, of PvE runs.

I will expend and find a location to do quick PvE ISK runs, separate from PvP anti-gank teams. Ultimately the PvP, fighting other players....on my terms and turf (even in missions)...Is the fun of EVE.

Red Vs Blue.


"It's the politicians' job to win wars before they start." It can be applied to (most) high-sec gankers as well.

However, have you considered mining in Code space to generate PvP? Hint: don't pay the permit and flout that you haven't done so. You could consider mining in your SNI (using drones.)

Right, where to start. Like everyone else said, a fit like that is powerful gank bait. You've probably already been watchlisted by half the people in the thread, and any ganking operation is gonna do the math and bring enough Thrashers or Nados to get the job done before Concordokken. Selectable damage type on projectiles means they'll be shooting into your resist holes.

Best defense against ganking is situational awareness, instant docks/undocks, D-scan, and not undocking in unnecessarily blinged fits. Aside from dropping some of the more egregious bling, there's nothing you can do fitting/DPS wise to "fight" suicide gankers.

Mission baiters are another story. Some of them will be true solo, some of them will have a friend or an alt, and some of them will have a whole blob of alts. Battleship grade missiles are bad at applying damage to small targets. I don't fly missile ships so I don't know how many webs/target painters are required to rectify this. And PvE fittings are generally terrible for PvP and vice versa; it's one of EVE's main flaws.

Best move? Carry a mobile depot with a full PvP fit. Neuts, webs, rapid heavy missile launchers, painters, etc. You could even do something off the wall like fitting rapid LIGHT missile launchers instead, lowering your DPS but giving you perfect damage application. However, anyone that engages you knowing that you have a mobile depot on field probably has a trump card to play.

Another trick I've considered but not actually used is to keep a second, PvP fit hull of the same type with the same name in system. Warp your PvE boat to station, undock PvP fit, warp back to mission, commence murder. Unfortunately, if you are up against someone with multiple logi alts, there's nothing you can do to win except buy some alts of your own.

Really if you want to get fights in a battleship just start roaming lowsec in PvP fits. You'll find it infinitely more rewarding than trying to get fights in a half-PvE fit blingboat.

Also get a Rattlesnake. Same hull, insane drone DPS, still good missile DPS, and drones suck alot less for PvP than missiles do.

Thousand DPS Gecko + web and scram is good for making bad guys go away.

Want to thank everyone for the solid advice. With the pointed suggestions, I've found I nice quite system where the SNI may graze unaccosted. Stripped the bling (she does just fine without the extra weight) and reserved modules for ships worthy of the price tag. Namely a few Golems' and Rattlesnakes'. They are revving up for some excitement in Uedama, Niarja, or Osmon (currently gathering intel to know where I may do the most good/damage). After I lose a few I will be ready for low/null again.

EDT:


TY for the vids, this is the inspiration and direction I needed.