Wormholes

If we have a CCP guy listening to us we should at least be honest and not cloud the real problem with non issues such as POS sieges. This is ridiculous.

How about making something like the pop up window when someone invites you to fleet.
It can come in two modes.
Mode one, afte the FC gives the fleet warp command, a pop up window comes up to each player, when everyone gives the ok, the fleet warps.
Mode two, FC orders the warp, but when you give the ok, you warp. So if someone goes afk, then only he gets screwed.

The wormhole spawn distance change emptied c6 and c6 space.
This next change will empty the rest of wh space.
It like someone said in the wh fleet warp meeting, "They are forcing us to do fly manualy without giving us the tools for it."

I am realy disapointed many people will be leaving w-space.
This change forces everyone to be in the same corp.
This will make wh a pve paradise without any risk.
It won't change bombers at all just slow them down a few seconds
Slipper petes will be the only fleet in k-space.

This change will be forced down our necks, and maybe in 6 month they will be able to give us any tool wich may be usefull.

Small pvp corps will just die out .

Combat will be decided by who warps first, will die.

You should have listened to all of it.
Then you would know people did say that but it even gets worse CCP wants to get rid of even more the fleet warp!
Also the squad command idea is down the drain, they might do the broadcast thingy, but that is a might and will probably not soon if they would do it.
Also look at the summary on reddit :
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3a8pss/recording_of_ccp_fleet_warp_meeting_with_wormhole/
But don't get your hopes up, everyone tried to give lots of examples but more then maybes and put an other alt on the hole you won't find in there.
Also listen how the ccp guys "understands" wh mechanics.

TF's TTL;DRDR as gacked from the Reddit TL;DR

Question: (random babbling that doesn't seem to have a point as far as I can tell)
CCP Larrikin: I'm not a wormholer, I admit it

My listening in on this, the summary and take-home point seems to be we are getting it no matter what, so just suck it up princess(es) and adapt your tactics.

One thing I'd like to say is that there's all this talk of scouts being decloaked by sleepers. Well, you guys are terrible scouts is all I'll say. Yes, it is a terrible game design (general design) principle to change a system to being less useful and be unable to explain why, how and what the logic was. But that seems to be CCP Larrikin's forte - lack of concise explanations as to what the design philosophy behind this all is.

Oh, sorry. NDA's and all, no doubt. Must be some sekrit CCP technology behind all of this which, if EA found out, Disney would take CCP over and we'd be playing Panty Ranger Space Edition. Pfft.

Fact remains that CCP has created some serious design problems within the game which have become exploitable by aggregation mechanics in order to expose imbalances. These imbalances (eg; bombers, Slippery petes) have no easy design fixes, so CCP has (I would hope) sat down and workshopped their way through a consequence tree on the various modes of addressing these imbalances. Nerfing fleet warps was one of the mechanisms proposed to bring some 'balance' back into the game but is not the only one.

The problem here is CCP is more keen on dismantling aggregation advantage (ie; blobbing) than fiddling ship stats or other mechanical stats (eg tengu sensor strength to adjust the formula, resulting in slipper petes being resolvable by probes would be an example).

You can see that this is a wide-ranging philosophy in the game.
Space AIDS / jump fatigue? Disaggregation.
Fleet Warp nerf? Disaggregation.
Limited drone assign? Disaggregation.
Entosis Mechanism? Replaces EHP walls which encourage aggregations = disaggregation.
Fozziesov? Disaggregation.

Looking at what the ishtar, Gila and Rattler have done to the PVP meta, and the nerfs and balance changes, it is clear that CCP believes the problem lies more with the drones themselves than the hulls. This is a backasswards balance attempt, just like deconstructing fleet aggregation mechanics is a backasswards way of dissolving blobs.

CCP Larrikin isn't going to internalise any feedback. Listening to the recording this is abundantly clear from all the deft and brutal topic changes. Even reasonable feedback seems to roll off him because the decision has been made at the overarching philosophy stage; this is just one of the sub-steps n CCP's broader strategy for making the game 'more dynamic'. Changing the course of CCP isn't going to happen at this level of the debate because it is driven by a broader philosophical move.

Yes, we are copping it in the nuts, but we are also, as a community, not providing much (if any) feedback which really addresses the philosophy and provides alternative mechanisms for attaining the same result - disaggregation.

One thing I did enjoy was hearing the question - will you remove anchor up on FC? I hope so. So, so many people will cry buckets of tears and mock unsub when they can't follow the anchor and press F1.

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Ramifications?

Dribbling onto grid means that the defender, on grid, gets an initial advantage to begin blapping the attackers if they are prepared, or react appropriately. Expect to see a resurgence of alphafleets, nano kitefag varieties especially (artybals), as you can alpha down an opponent and scoot off into the sunset waggling stiff middle fingers as your attackers pop onto grid one or two at a time.

There is a real technical reasoning behind breaking events down into more manageable fights/events right? Server load.

+ more fun per sec to be had, f1 anchoring is boring as ****

I look forward to screwing over bigger fleets by waiting for half there fleet to warp before throwing up a bubble to catch the stragglers.

I scrolled through the transcript of the soundboard but tbh I cant really bring myself to care either way with this change. We'll adapt as always.

FFS....

I have to agree with Jack Miton here. Large fleet fights SHOULD be difficult to coordinate. I get the point of the change. I don't like the change necessarily, but that is because it makes my own life more difficult, which isn't a good reason for me to ***** about it.

Personally, I would like to see either fleet warp be eliminated entirely, or go to the squad warp version as was suggested by someone else. I also think that as was previously pointed out, bookmarks would need to propagate much, much faster. I don't know if this is realistic or not, as I don't have enough knowledge about how the bookmark propagation works in the software.

If fleet warp MUST be addressed, then I would like to see:

1) Nearly instant (5 sec or less) bookmark propagation
2) Squad level warp, or no fleet warp at all
and, very importantly, IMO"
3) Settable warp speed. We need a warp speed throttle to replace the fact that we would be losing the ability for ships of differing sizes to warp at the same speed. I have been wanting adjustable warp speed for a long time now anyways.