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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-06-16 03:01:08 UTC
HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better.

Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY.

Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt. Cool

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#22 - 2015-06-16 12:44:19 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better.

Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY.

Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt. Cool


While you have a point in regards to the whole lol-voting and hidden agenda stuff, some CSM truly are different. Some actually care for "the greater good" and EVE as a whole.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#23 - 2015-06-16 14:03:59 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better.

Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY.

Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt. Cool



Yes why can't we have PROPER player reps like they have in such Mmos as

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-06-16 14:07:52 UTC
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
They are each still under NDA.. so they cant speak to the public until mittens orders them to Smile

:frysquint:

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#25 - 2015-06-16 14:33:24 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Eve is real. So they will start working when the elections are up again, just like real politicians.


your my favourite

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#26 - 2015-06-16 15:44:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Koba Kyogen wrote:
I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.

Where are you guys?

AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.

Where are you guys?

maybe if you were more connected you would see their activity. I've seen corbex, steve and sugar all take part in discussions in the past two days. Just because they don't seek you out doesn't mean they aren't doing things.


Do they take part in discussions on the forums, or on their personal blogs where they get ad revenue?

Part of their job is community engagement, as we see here part of the community is expressing concern that they're not doing their requirement...

...
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-06-16 17:01:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Otso Bakarti wrote:
HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better.

Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY.

Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt. Cool



Yes why can't we have PROPER player reps like they have in such Mmos as
Uh huh? You were saying? What game claims the same? I'm all "ears".

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Jayne Fillon
#28 - 2015-06-18 03:23:10 UTC
Huh, no one else from CSM has shown up here.

Beyond Mike Azariah I'm unsure if anyone currently on the CSM is an active participant on the official forums, I only browse it periodically myself and rarely post. Depending on which "circle" you're involved with (alliance, forums, podcasts, blogs, reddit, etc) you will probably be exposed to a different subset of CSM members who use that medium as well. The majority of CSM10 members are active this year and despite a slow start I feel like we've been making good progress.

If you want to get in touch with the CSM, follow this link:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=414710&find=unread

Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-06-18 04:24:04 UTC
And even expecting ME to hit GD everyday is a bit much, no?

I have been in the threadnaughts, there are blogs, there have been soundclouds . . .

sweet mercy, what do you want, hand delivered summaries of the days activities?

Summer will be more quiet. Iceland likes its summers takes advantage of that. We will be girding our loins and preparing for the first summit at the end of summer. (Yes, I am going to it) so this would be a good time to ask for things you want us to talk to CCP about.

unless, of course, you subscribe to the negative folks above who are positive that I am part of a huge publicity scam.

then why would you even wonder where we are? No, you hope and maybe believe we are something, we do something, or you wouldnt ask. But General discussion? No, lots of the csm choose not to step into this. Some speak only to their own 'constituents' and brain trusts.

for better or worse, you're mine.

god help us all

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
Grinder2210
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-06-18 05:56:52 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
what do you want, hand delivered summaries of the days activities?





Please and could i also have your first born while your at it Make sure the liver is good im going to need oneBlink
Sykaotic
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-06-18 08:29:21 UTC
Awesome.

Everything is fixed now and all parties happy.

I am going to go check on that 90 pages about icons page to see how it was all resolved. Yay!
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#32 - 2015-06-18 09:32:32 UTC
Mike's the real deal, other current CSM perhaps less so.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2015-06-18 10:05:30 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
And even expecting ME to hit GD everyday is a bit much, no?

I have been in the threadnaughts, there are blogs, there have been soundclouds . . .

sweet mercy, what do you want, hand delivered summaries of the days activities?

Summer will be more quiet. Iceland likes its summers takes advantage of that. We will be girding our loins and preparing for the first summit at the end of summer. (Yes, I am going to it) so this would be a good time to ask for things you want us to talk to CCP about.

unless, of course, you subscribe to the negative folks above who are positive that I am part of a huge publicity scam.

then why would you even wonder where we are? No, you hope and maybe believe we are something, we do something, or you wouldnt ask. But General discussion? No, lots of the csm choose not to step into this. Some speak only to their own 'constituents' and brain trusts.

for better or worse, you're mine.

god help us all

m



Learned well, you have.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#34 - 2015-06-18 11:36:22 UTC
Not sure how I missed this one.

Probably it was the really useful title. Or possibly that it wasn't in the Assembly hall or speakers park forums.

We're around. We're still talking with CCP. And each other. And having some (generally civil) arguments with each other about things.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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