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WH Prospect Gas Harvesting - Seriously
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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#41 - 2015-06-16 11:30:38 UTC
Vulpecula Borealis wrote:
Van Dracon wrote:
Is this some sort of a joke.


2 - Prospect frigate doesn't have any drone bays but the venture does go figure


Yes. This is pretty bad. It should have a flight of small drones. Even for ninjamining in lowsec or nullsec, it's not good. Your only defence is the cloak.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5821198#post5821198

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.
Anthar Thebess
#42 - 2015-06-16 11:32:05 UTC
One can point and light covert cyno Roll

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Violet Crumble
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#43 - 2015-06-16 11:42:21 UTC
Yodik wrote:
Vulpecula Borealis wrote:
Van Dracon wrote:
Is this some sort of a joke.


2 - Prospect frigate doesn't have any drone bays but the venture does go figure


Yes. This is pretty bad. It should have a flight of small drones. Even for ninjamining in lowsec or nullsec, it's not good. Your only defence is the cloak.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5821198#post5821198

I'm glad that approach works for you.

Looking at your killboard, you have quite a few Prospect losses, which is clearly no problem since I bet you're making more ISK than the ship and fit is worth anyway.

Being targeted by the rats prevents you from activating your covops cloak when other players arrive on grid. Each to their own and clearly as you show, there's more than one way to go about it.

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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#44 - 2015-06-16 11:55:04 UTC
Violet Crumble wrote:

I'm glad that approach works for you.

Looking at your killboard, you have quite a few Prospect losses, which is clearly no problem since I bet you're making more ISK than the ship and fit is worth anyway.

Being targeted by the rats prevents you from activating your covops cloak when other players arrive on grid. Each to their own and clearly as you show, there's more than one way to go about it.

there is 90% garantee, that no one come for loosing their battleship by sleepers, for now.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.
Nicholas Kirk
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-06-16 13:42:08 UTC
Miles Parabellum wrote:
I must admit, given the large difference in price and the small difference in performance, I have no idea why anybody would use a prospect.
If one of you guys can enlighten me, that would be nice.
Of course, I also tend to AFK gasmine with no implants (only once come back to the game, sitting in a station).

this

I took one look at it and the skills involved and it came down to this

no extra mining boosts and ventures are pretty hard to catch as is when gas mining WHs
Prospect is a failure
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#46 - 2015-06-16 13:44:35 UTC
Nicholas Kirk wrote:
[quote=Miles Parabellum]
Prospect is a failure

+1, dont waste your time.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.
Victor Emmanuel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-06-16 22:52:05 UTC
Do the sleepers respawn after you clear a gas site?

Can the armor repped/speed tanked prospect tank frigate sized sleepers?
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#48 - 2015-06-17 09:08:30 UTC
Victor Emmanuel wrote:
Do the sleepers respawn after you clear a gas site?

Can the armor repped/speed tanked prospect tank frigate sized sleepers?

nope

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#49 - 2015-06-17 11:04:11 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
One can point and light covert cyno Roll


Don't tell sekrets. Oops

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Nevil Oscillator
#50 - 2015-06-17 16:28:01 UTC
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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#51 - 2015-06-17 16:36:40 UTC
Nicholas Kirk wrote:
no extra mining boosts and ventures are pretty hard to catch as is when gas mining WHs

There is additional mining bonuses for a Prospect over the Venture. Up to +25% mining yield.

The reduction in sig radius is also a nice bonus.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#52 - 2015-06-17 18:04:16 UTC
The Prospect is a different ship in many ways. I would favour the venture for some activities and the prospect for others.

A venture can't jump through a covert jump portal and fit a covert ops cloak though so that is a big difference right there.

Also if you are using drones to defend yourself your doing it wrong, on both the ships their sig radius is their best defence, and the prospect wins hands down in that regard.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#53 - 2015-06-17 18:31:06 UTC
I honestly cannot imagine anyone complaining about the Prospect. That ship is totally nuts, especially for stealing gas. Yeah, it doesn't have drones or guns, but it absolutely does not need them.

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Doomheim
#54 - 2015-06-17 19:28:05 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I honestly cannot imagine anyone complaining about the Prospect. That ship is totally nuts, especially for stealing gas. Yeah, it doesn't have drones or guns, but it absolutely does not need them.


Seriously. I fly a Prospect on my indy character and it is insane. Covops cloak, gas hoovering, stupid fast align time, great yield on mining and a big ass ore bay. You don't need drones when you can cloak and GTFO.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#55 - 2015-06-17 21:05:04 UTC
Freya Sertan wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I honestly cannot imagine anyone complaining about the Prospect. That ship is totally nuts, especially for stealing gas. Yeah, it doesn't have drones or guns, but it absolutely does not need them.


Seriously. I fly a Prospect on my indy character and it is insane. Covops cloak, gas hoovering, stupid fast align time, great yield on mining and a big ass ore bay. You don't need drones when you can cloak and GTFO.


Exactly. What are two light drones going to save you from in wormhole space? A newbie ship?

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#56 - 2015-06-17 21:34:45 UTC
Mining gas is only just slightly more fun than mining ice. ...and mining ice almost makes ripping your own toenails out with a pair of pliers seem pleasant.
Nevil Oscillator
#57 - 2015-06-17 21:43:27 UTC
I quite often put ECM drones on my probe, I've yet to be in a situation where I have launched them but in the event I am attacked by something that takes more than 5 seconds to kill a probe I will know there is someone out there as brave as me.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#58 - 2015-06-17 23:15:07 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Mining gas is only just slightly more fun than mining ice. ...and mining ice almost makes ripping your own toenails out with a pair of pliers seem pleasant.


Mining gas in a C6 wormhole with known activity in local is ANYTHING but boring.

ANYTHING.

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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#59 - 2015-07-13 23:18:24 UTC
i'm terribly sorry

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.
Flakey Foont
#60 - 2015-07-13 23:48:47 UTC
I love threads where guy says "I trained x months for x ship and then found out it has no x." Like that info is not available before you trained.

Yeah 2 light drones will save you......
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