EVE General Discussion

I know this.
The only thing i got form there is thanathos skin - well i was drunk
5 minutes later i undocked and , omg this skin is so dark, and in the systems i live you almost don't see the difference.

My point is that in order for NES to be profitable source of income - it needs something viable - for people to actually spend cash on it.

Skins are fun, but at some point people will be bored, oh hey next pink ship.
From my perspective , CCP needs to change charging for every (new) thing in plexes.

Character transfers
New 'underwear' from NES
New Skins
Alliance tournament
etc

This escalates cost of plex to very high levels - and we are not EVE China where booting is not prohibited.
Cost of alt accounts raise every day ( plex speculation helps this ).

No for F2P because F2P is a very slippery slope to P2W


I don't want to pay for increased skill timers. I don't want to pay cash for Faction Mods.

If this became a thing I would very passionantly protest it tell it happened then quit.


So. Sorry but.

**** your idea. **** Free to play, and **** you.

=D

This thread gave me cancer.

Also, I think the horse is, for all intents and purposes, dead. Remember kids, say no to.... *whispers* free to play

Except for how they very often go hand in hand. Take your nonsense somewhere else.

terrible rage and such bad ideas, nobody likes the idea so maybe just biomass if the sub is such an issue for you.

damn i cant imagine the rage you would have if ccp decided to charge for expansions or require you to spend £60 on a set of game discs + subscription

LoL does not have an ingame economy like EvE has. That's the issue.

LoL is also a MOBA not a sandbox MMO. Please stop comparing them.

Let's compare Go with 4-in-a-row while we're at it! It's virtually the same, ya put dots on a field right?

We are not debating if the game is a moba or has an economy, stop beating around the bush and trying to say that these things have any reflection on the fact that a "item shop" is bad.

Your deflection from the fact that there is many games out there with item shops, trying to hide behind the banner of genre does not prove that item shops are all pay to win, and even if you could prove something like that, that does not make it the case here considering there is "always exceptions to the rule".

your deflection to this is nothing more then a pathetic attempt to invalidate a perfectly rewarding system to both players and studio's a like.

The problem is a lot of you have played games by the korean game makers, or studio's like kixeye, blue bytes etc who have intentionally designed their games to be "coined to win".

No one is advocating for a system anywhere near that.

Adding ships to the item shop, is comparable to league of legends in an identical game to that, as it would only serve to diversity the "meta" mixing up the game play.

Its what we call in game design as cyclical balancing systems. The way it works is identical to that system that is currently in eve.

It works like this


Pilots make build A (which we will call nano-ishtar). Everyone see's that nano ishtars are way better then Build b (which we will call zealot spam).

So everyone follows the meta and swaps to build a (nono ishtar) until someone creates build c (shuttles of doom) in which cases everyone follows and the cylce starts over.

Eve works on this cycle, just like League works on a similar cylce, what we have seen as a constant however is that its generally cruiser class ships that are in this mix. We never see for example, a fleet spam of night hawks, but we may see some overly powerful battleship spam from time to time.

this tells us that command ships are not on par with the other stuff, even though they are excellent at lower levels. This means that in time the meta will probably change to be more balanced when the spam drops and they become more relative to the engagement.


Understanding this helps people like you understand how "new ships from the item shop" fits into the meta of the game.
New ships means new content, and new means fresh, and we all love a nice clean fresh feeling. It makes the game feel more like league (in terms of new exciting things every two weeks) as opposed to being "oh its just another ishtar".

There is nothing wrong with this, its extremely good for the game.

The only legit argument placed here is if ccp legit makes these ships more "op" then what ever else, and there is a simple solution to this, just make them equal in stats to hacks but give them new bonus's, Like a hack-ecm hybrid (sorta like a cruiser version of electronic frigates).


This like this would be exciting and refreshing to see in eve and they in no way equate to "Pay to win".

There is indeed something fishy about this thread... the thought the OP is serious.

And unless those playing free were barred from thrashers and catalysts... well, anyone can see the implication.